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Nils,

Yes, "Nils", I am an experienced MFT user.  Search the threads here and you will see that.  I am sorry that I misunderstood your question about turning the MFT fence.  I have never used the fence that way.

You have convinced me that you are either Dino masquerading as Nils or one of Dino's buddies that has come here to disrupt our forum.  Your use of the term "Festool bridge" gave you away.  Goodbye.
 
Pictures Nisse,
Pictures.
It's hard to believe that you are the only one
with a 75 and a guide rail that can't cut a board square.
Every thing about your post is hard to believe. If your so
desperate  to to buy that EZ thing do it, but I suggest you go back to
carpentry 101  before you waste your money.
Do you really think that Festool has grown into a giant company
making tools that don't work?
Tell Dino that we love the Festool rail system so much that we now own 45 feet
of square cutting rail.

Nisse, your post rings like a cracked bell.

Bob
 
Nils, it would seem you don't want to find answers to the problems you are experiencing with your Festool rails. You have been directed to where you can find the info you need to help with your MFT/guide rail problems and to where you can get all the info you could ever want on the EZ system. It is becoming clear you only want to disrupt this forum, if I have misjudged your intentions please forgive me. I think you'll find antagonizing the members here isn't the best way to ask for help, not to mention you aren't representing yourself very well at all with this type of behavior. I do hope you find a way to be a member contributing positively to this forum in future.

FOG members, please don't post comments that could be taken as antagonistic, insulting or with unnecessary speculation about the a member's identity. That kind of behavior really isn't needed on this site.
 
Daviddubya said:
Nils,

Yes, "Nils", I am an experienced MFT user.  Search the threads here and you will see that.  I am sorry that I misunderstood your question about turning the MFT fence.  I have never used the fence that way.

You have convinced me that you are either Dino masquerading as Nils or one of Dino's buddies that has come here to disrupt our forum.  Your use of the term "Festool bridge" gave you away.  Goodbye.

dear David,

why speculate in my relation to Dino,

I don't speculate in your relation to Festool,
who know, you could very easily be paid by
Festool or some marketing company in charge of
promoting Festool products

if you are a long time user of Festool MFT
then it should not be to difficult to confirm
at least my statements regarding the perpendicularity
of Festool MFT alu fence and the alu side profiles

btw, how could it be that you never observed
that MFT is equipped with a cross cutting bridge
on the top

its great idea but it just doesn't work when using
solid wood,

probably its because it is not fixed on one side
and the rail is to easily bend to the right/left
when plunging and pushing the saw forward

that's where I see some major differences on the
EurekaZone rails

one other thing that made me consider EurekaZone
is Dino himself, he is carpenter and when you talk
to him his head is full of solutions. Compare that to
my long discussion with the Festool service people
who's standard answer is "we can't do that", "its not
possible" and like.

David, if you cant confirm the above perpendicularity
maybe you could tell me why you are so anti-Dino?

I have not tried his products yet but it seems like
it should be great in combination with my TS75

Nils
 
Rey Johnson said:
I found a new feature:

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You are aware, Rey, that everything you have documented in your "A Festool MFT/TS55 Retrospective" thread has been determined to be impossible by the OP of this thread.  ::)

Come clean, Rey. All of those wonderful shots with nice square and parallel dadoes, grooves, tongues, and half-laps must have been staged in the Nevada desert where they did all the fake moon-landing shots. Did Bob Swenson help you out?  ;D

...for immediate implementation

:P
 
Nils,

If you are serious in having your questions answered,

by the good folks on this forum, go to the "Additional Options..." button (I noted below) in the message window,

with your photos of your MFT/Rails and your TS75  set up......

and download those PHOTOS.

That way there could be no misunderstanding of your issues or misinterpretations of your intentions.

We will all still be here and wait patiently while you take those photos.

R.

P.S. As to downloading photos onto the Fog site their are excellent tutorials available thru the SEARCH button,

and if you have any issues with that I'm sure any long time members here would be available to assist you upon the asking.

[attachimg=#]

 
Nisse

when you say the guide is in the up position are you talking about the rail raised on the mft to accept thicker stock.  I think that the maximum stock thickness is somewhere in the 3 inch range.  If this is what you are talking about then yes the rail will flex if it is not supported and that will give you a cut that is not perpendicular to the mft top.  The height of the rail should always be on top of the work piece and if there is not sufficient support for the rail it probably will twist or distort resulting in a less than perpendicular cut( the saws have enough weight to do this).  In other words the guide rail height on the mft should always be positioned on the stock and not just left at the maximum height for all cuts.  if you are at max height and don't have enough material to support the rail a spacer is needed to prevent the rail from distorting(which actually applies for all heights).

I hope this what you were after.

JJ
 
Daviddubya said:
Nils,

Yes, "Nils", I am an experienced MFT user.  Search the threads here and you will see that.  I am sorry that I misunderstood your question about turning the MFT fence.  I have never used the fence that way.

You have convinced me that you are either Dino masquerading as Nils or one of Dino's buddies that has come here to disrupt our forum.  Your use of the term "Festool bridge" gave you away.  Goodbye.

David,
Dino is lucky to have you as a friend. ::)
If you're searching for the ez challenge ( from the closed thread-ez-duzit)
Click here: http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=88662

Nils come here for help and advice. Your actions are keeping others from doing the same.
What the (....)  Dino haves to do with this?
Is this your PT job? To discourage festool owners from posting their problems
and the same time to attack Dino?

Starting a fight ( ez-duzit ) and  at the end asking Dino to post his challenge at his forum,
that is moderated by the SMC stuff, so you can attack again?

Good luck with the challenge.
You may notice at the end that Dino is challenging  his own ideas., even if his invention works.
Try that for few days. Challenge your thoughts before you next attack.

Go ahead. Call me Dinoe if you like.

Yo Dino...   Have some respect for the man.

david.

 
greg mann said:
You are aware, Rey, that everything you have documented in your "A Festool MFT/TS55 Retrospective" thread has been determined to be impossible by the OP of this thread.  ::)

Come clean, Rey. All of those wonderful shots with nice square and parallel dadoes, grooves, tongues, and half-laps must have been staged in the Nevada desert where they did all the fake moon-landing shots. Did Bob Swenson help you out?  ;D

Area 51 was the place, and there were these little green dudes all around. They had little domino eyes and transported themselves on rails. I believe the leader of the little green dudes was called keoshhde_KAPEX_djdkdksdsds. Only the middle part of his name was pronounceable. So whenever he was summoned, you would only here "mighty lord Kapex" we have brought you another subject to eat. We serve at your pleasure.

 
d.epstein said:
Daviddubya said:
Nils,

Yes, "Nils", I am an experienced MFT user.  Search the threads here and you will see that.  I am sorry that I misunderstood your question about turning the MFT fence.  I have never used the fence that way.

You have convinced me that you are either Dino masquerading as Nils or one of Dino's buddies that has come here to disrupt our forum.  Your use of the term "Festool bridge" gave you away.  Goodbye.

David,
Dino is lucky to have you as a friend. ::)
If you're searching for the ez challenge ( from the closed thread-ez-duzit)
Click here: http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=88662

Nils come here for help and advice. Your actions are keeping others from doing the same.
What the (....)  Dino haves to do with this?
Is this your PT job? To discourage festool owners from posting their problems
and the same time to attack Dino?

Starting a fight ( ez-duzit ) and  at the end asking Dino to post his challenge at his forum,
that is moderated by the SMC stuff, so you can attack again?

Good luck with the challenge.
You may notice at the end that Dino is challenging  his own ideas., even if his invention works.
Try that for few days. Challenge your thoughts before you next attack.

Go ahead. Call me Dinoe if you like.

Yo Dino...   Have some respect for the man.

david.
David,

  I really try to stay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay afield of the EZ stuff. But, with all due respect, if "Nils" was genuinely looking for information, rather than controversy, he would have been met with a much more positive response. And, I will be perfectly honest here; I personally doubt "Nils" whole story, even doubt his identity.
I have been around the Festool - EZ stuff since the beginning and can and will tell you Dino has posted anonymously asking things like like "hey did anyone hear about the EZ system?"as a way of getting a discussion started about his system. And when Festool won some award and EZ didn't, posted to the effect "OK - Festool advertises big $$ in mag, Festool wins ward. Ez doesn't advertises there; no award - hhhmmm?"Terrible insinuation. I have met Dino personally (both of us live in NJ and attended the NJ WW shows) spoke to him on the phone and emailed him. Nice guy, but don't like his marketing tactics. Let the products speak for themselves; don't tear down another's to make yours look good. I have often remarked on the forums, I couldn't imagine another CEO/owner behaving this way - can you see Rob Lee of Lee Valley knocking Tom Lie Nielson's products? I can't.  Enough old history.
I think by and very large, the FOG members are willing to help anyone come up with a better way to work - just look at the responses, manuals, tutorials that are available here. But when someone, in this case, "Nils" seems to have another agenda in mind, stoking the Festoll-EZ feud, it's a good probability, he's going to be called on it, by the folks that are not looking for a fight, but by those who have been down this road too many times before.
At the risk of attaining Bad Karma, I feel this one time, I needed to chime in. No worries, no more.

Bob

  Bob
 
Bob Marino said:
d.epstein said:
Daviddubya said:
Nils,

Yes, "Nils", I am an experienced MFT user.  Search the threads here and you will see that.  I am sorry that I misunderstood your question about turning the MFT fence.  I have never used the fence that way.

You have convinced me that you are either Dino masquerading as Nils or one of Dino's buddies that has come here to disrupt our forum.  Your use of the term "Festool bridge" gave you away.  Goodbye.

David,
Dino is lucky to have you as a friend. ::)
If you're searching for the ez challenge ( from the closed thread-ez-duzit)
Click here: http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=88662

Nils come here for help and advice. Your actions are keeping others from doing the same.
What the (....)  Dino haves to do with this?
Is this your PT job? To discourage festool owners from posting their problems
and the same time to attack Dino?

Starting a fight ( ez-duzit ) and  at the end asking Dino to post his challenge at his forum,
that is moderated by the SMC stuff, so you can attack again?

Good luck with the challenge.
You may notice at the end that Dino is challenging  his own ideas., even if his invention works.
Try that for few days. Challenge your thoughts before you next attack.

Go ahead. Call me Dinoe if you like.

Yo Dino...   Have some respect for the man.

david.
David,

  I really try to stay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay afield of the EZ stuff. But, with all due respect, if "Nils" was genuinely looking for information, rather than controversy, he would have been met with a much more positive response. And, I will be perfectly honest here; I personally doubt "Nils" whole story, even doubt his identity.
I have been around the Festool - EZ stuff since the beginning and can and will tell you Dino has posted anonymously asking things like like "hey did anyone hear about the EZ system?"as a way of getting a discussion started about his system. And when Festool won some award and EZ didn't, posted to the effect "OK - Festool advertises big $$ in mag, Festool wins ward. Ez doesn't advertises there; no award - hhhmmm?"Terrible insinuation. I have met Dino personally (both of us live in NJ and attended the NJ WW shows) spoke to him on the phone and emailed him. Nice guy, but don't like his marketing tactics. Let the products speak for themselves; don't tear down another's to make yours look good. I have often remarked on the forums, I couldn't imagine another CEO/owner behaving this way - can you see Rob Lee of Lee Valley knocking Tom Lie Nielson's products? I can't.  Enough old history.
I think by and very large, the FOG members are willing to help anyone come up with a better way to work - just look at the responses, manuals, tutorials that are available here. But when someone, in this case, "Nils" seems to have another agenda in mind, stoking the Festoll-EZ feud, it's a good probability, he's going to be called on it, by the folks that are not looking for a fight, but by those who have been down this road too many times before.
At the risk of attaining Bad Karma, I feel this one time, I needed to chime in. No worries, no more.

Bob

  Bob

Bob,
I talked to Dino few times about the "war"
We must first learn ALL the facts before we can judge anyone.
When the admin of FOG is posting in other forums ...
- You read Matthew's post about eurekazone providing false claims.

I think  ::) Nils owes to the forum a proof.
I hope his Karma will get better. ::)
I was going to give you a minus  at first but you just received your +8. ;)
I don't vote for Nils yet. David received my minus.
If I can vote for me...   plus another minus.
 
[quote Nisse

btw, how could it be that you never observed
that MFT is equipped with a cross cutting bridge
on the top

its great idea but it just doesn't work when using
solid wood,

probably its because it is not fixed on one side
and the rail is to easily bend to the right/left
when plunging and pushing the saw forward
[/quote]

Nisse, one of us is confused ??? Aren't you using the guide rail support bracket on the front of the table (the side where you stand)?
If you could post a pic of your setup and the results you are getting, I am positive a solution can be found; if you really want one.
 
Bob Marino said:
d.epstein said:
Daviddubya said:
Nils,

Yes, "Nils", I am an experienced MFT user.  Search the threads here and you will see that.  I am sorry that I misunderstood your question about turning the MFT fence.  I have never used the fence that way.

You have convinced me that you are either Dino masquerading as Nils or one of Dino's buddies that has come here to disrupt our forum.  Your use of the term "Festool bridge" gave you away.  Goodbye.

David,
Dino is lucky to have you as a friend. ::)
If you're searching for the ez challenge ( from the closed thread-ez-duzit)
Click here: http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=88662

Nils come here for help and advice. Your actions are keeping others from doing the same.
What the (....)  Dino haves to do with this?
Is this your PT job? To discourage festool owners from posting their problems
and the same time to attack Dino?

Starting a fight ( ez-duzit ) and  at the end asking Dino to post his challenge at his forum,
that is moderated by the SMC stuff, so you can attack again?

Good luck with the challenge.
You may notice at the end that Dino is challenging  his own ideas., even if his invention works.
Try that for few days. Challenge your thoughts before you next attack.

Go ahead. Call me Dinoe if you like.

Yo Dino...   Have some respect for the man.

david.
David,

  I really try to stay waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay afield of the EZ stuff. But, with all due respect, if "Nils" was genuinely looking for information, rather than controversy, he would have been met with a much more positive response. And, I will be perfectly honest here; I personally doubt "Nils" whole story, even doubt his identity.
I have been around the Festool - EZ stuff since the beginning and can and will tell you Dino has posted anonymously asking things like like "hey did anyone hear about the EZ system?"as a way of getting a discussion started about his system.

Bob. The whole story and not parts. I posted 0ne or twice with without using my name.
The reasons was given to you after I received your email. I may even have it.
At least of the moderators at the one forum that I posted, was acting Very Anti-ezsmart and I needed to find the answers before I can asked him to stop spreading BS at the forum. J.B. was the "contractor/associate" and you know that.
If you had the power to get my IP and use it against me because I was doing what had to be done, that shows your strong
relation with the same forum/administrator.


I can find the thread and the emails and make them public if you like.
On the other hand I have never call anyone to offer him free tools ot to tell them to shut-up.
Keith, the owner of SMC posted ( after he saw a demonstration ) that the ez is superior to Festool
and he received few calls not to do it again. ( you know the callers better than me)


Bob Marino said:
And when Festool won some award and EZ didn't, posted to the effect "OK - Festool advertises big $$ in mag, Festool wins ward. Ez doesn't advertises there; no award - hhhmmm?"Terrible insinuation. I have met Dino personally (both of us live in NJ and attended the NJ WW shows) spoke to him on the phone and emailed him. Nice guy, but don't like his marketing tactics. Let the products speak for themselves; don't tear down another's to make yours look good. I have often remarked on the forums, I couldn't imagine another CEO/owner behaving this way - can you see Rob Lee of Lee Valley knocking Tom Lie Nielson's products? I can't.  Enough old history.

About the FHB "review".
It was 100% fake.
I told them to leave the ez out of it and the responce was that they have to compare
the ez vs the merits of others without looking at the entire system.
The title of the review was: Can A straight edge guide the tablesaw?
In order to replace the tablesaw you need to haveat least two major capabilities.
A. Narrow clamping.
B. Repeatability.

Nothing was mentioned at the "Review" about the repeaters and the Smart clamping system.


Bob Marino said:
I think by and very large, the FOG members are willing to help anyone come up with a better way to work - just look at the responses, manuals, tutorials that are available here. But when someone, in this case, "Nils" seems to have another agenda in mind, stoking the Festoll-EZ feud, it's a good probability, he's going to be called on it, by the folks that are not looking for a fight, but by those who have been down this road too many times before.
At the risk of attaining Bad Karma, I feel this one time, I needed to chime in. No worries, no more.

Bob

  Bob

Anyway, I hope I win the Karma race. ::)
With my best regards and few facts.
You  have a good day and a good Karma race.
 
Good Afternoon,
OK, the FOG has been very generous to EZ associates.
Now, three hours and counting till lock down.
Matthew
 
 
Dino,

This is the reason I try and stay away from this particualr area. Did I say you posted more than once ir twice? Once was enough, in my book. I don't know to whom you are referring, but I have never offered anyone free tools or told anyone to shut up. I don't know who called or didn't call Keith, but can assure you it was no-one, even remotely, employed by Festool. I also don't know any "J.B" associate/contractor anywhere.

As to reviews, we can all find fault with reviews, especially if the tool we like doesn't  "win top honors". Personally, tool reviews are just a starting point, not an end point, for purchasing a tool. It was not the results of the mag tool test that's at issue, it was your very strong insinuation that the reason Festool won was due to their advertising there that I found, and still find offensive.
Ok, I have said what I had to and promise to all, no further responses will be comin' from me.

Bob
 
So how disruptive does one need to be before some one hits the ban button?

EDIT:

By the way Dino don't speculate that a select few have "the power to" get your IP, anybody's IP can be traced very easily so don't be surprised if every single entity in which you have left you tracks have taken notice of your and Burt's IPs as I strongly suspect that your marketing tactics are very strongly disliked.
 
woodtradesman said:
So how disruptive does one need to be before some one hits the ban button?

Not too much more!
The ban list on this forum is really short.  Only one person has ever been banned.
Is that number about to double, perhaps triple?
Matthew
 
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