Fogtainers For Sale! Anyone interested? This Ends August 15, 2010

[Brice Burrell]

Guys, Peter sent me my Fogtainer so I could evaluate the label and let you know what I think.  The label seems to fit the front recessed panel of my Sys 2 perfectly.  The only edge exposed is the bottom and I was able to get a finger nail under to peel the label with some effort.  The label sticks very well, I can't see them coming off under normal use.  So far to test the label I've left my Fogtainer outside in the snow for an hour, it sat in about 3 inches of snow and an inch had accumulated on the lid.  The temperature was 15F (-9C).  Being cold and wet had no effect on the label.  I also wrote on the label with a Sharpie marker and it wiped off with alcohol just as Peter said it would.  Well that's what I've tried so far, tomorrow I'll take some pictures so you can see the sys with the label and printed prototype sys side by side.   

 

[Jonhilgen]

Brice,
What about scratch resistance?

Jon

 

[gjh119]

Sticker/decal is fine with me. My only concern was cold temperatures but Brice's cold weather test answered that. I have been a firefighter in one on NJ's busy cities and most of our equipment have good quality decals on them for company markings and this equipment is exposed to environments that everyday wood working tools will never see.
I also have a small screen printing/embroidery business. Printing on a rough plastic and trying to get a quality print is tough.
Pete, you can ship mine out with decals!

 

[GPowers]

You can ship my two with decals

 

[Brice Burrell]

Brice,
What about scratch resistance?

Jon

Good question.  That might be hard to test, I'm sure I could scratch it if I tried hard enough.  I'm pretty sure the labels are going to be able to hold up to jobsite abuse since they're made of Lexan.  And remember, the printing is on the backside so it isn't going to scratch off.

 

[peter halle]

Sticker/decal is fine with me. My only concern was cold temperatures but Brice's cold weather test answered that. I have been a firefighter in one on NJ's busy cities and most of our equipment have good quality decals on them for company markings and this equipment is exposed to environments that everyday wood working tools will never see.
I also have a small screen printing/embroidery business. Printing on a rough plastic and trying to get a quality print is tough.
Pete, you can ship mine out with decals!

The working temp for the adhesive is down to at least 40 below F.

Peter

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Sticker/decal is fine with me. My only concern was cold temperatures but Brice's cold weather test answered that. I have been a firefighter in one on NJ's busy cities and most of our equipment have good quality decals on them for company markings and this equipment is exposed to environments that everyday wood working tools will never see.
I also have a small screen printing/embroidery business. Printing on a rough plastic and trying to get a quality print is tough.
Pete, you can ship mine out with decals!

The working temp for the adhesive is down to at least 40 below F.

Peter

Sounds OK for Wisconsin.  Send 'em on out!
I'll take mine with badges/placards/decals/labels/stickers/printed... whatev.  [smile]

 

[Tim Morris]

Send one this way Peter. I'm sure I can do a -30 temperature test right now  [eek]

 

[Jonhilgen]

Brice,
What about scratch resistance?

Jon

Good question.  That might be hard to test, I'm sure I could scratch it if I tried hard enough.  I'm pretty sure the labels are going to be able to hold up to jobsite abuse since they're made of Lexan.  And remember, the printing is on the backside so it isn't going to scratch off.

I'm sold, ship em out Peter!

 

[tjbier]

Sounds OK for Wisconsin.  Send 'em on out!
I'll take mine with badges/placards/decals/labels/stickers/printed... whatev.   [smile]

I agree.
Just can't wait to get my mits on them!

 

[PaulMarcel]

The working temp for the adhesive is down to at least 40 below F.

How 'bout the other end of the scale, like 122 F ambiant, freaking 10,000 F in the sun?

 

[peter halle]

The working temp for the adhesive is down to at least 40 below F.

How 'bout the other end of the scale, like 122 F ambiant, freaking 10,000 F in the sun?

Maximum operating temperature per 3M is 300 degrees F.

 

[PaulMarcel]

Maximum operating temperature per 3M is 300 degrees F.

Okay, I'll keep them in the shade  [embarassed]

 

[Wood_Junkie]

The working temp for the adhesive is down to at least 40 below F.

How 'bout the other end of the scale, like 122 F ambiant, freaking 10,000 F in the sun?

Maximum operating temperature per 3M is 300 degrees F.

No liquid hydrogen.  *CHECK*

Not taking to Antarctica.  *CHECK*

Do not use to bake Thanksgiving turkey @ 350o    (this one bums me out!  Better than a baking bag!)

No acetylene torch.  *CHECK*

No solid rocket fuel storage.  *CHECK*.

I'm good.  Lemme have 'em!    [big grin]

 

[atomicmike]

Maximum operating temperature per 3M is 300 degrees F.

Darn it! There goes my plans to bake a Fogtainer fruitcake.  [crying]

 

[harry_]

Maximum operating temperature per 3M is 300 degrees F.

Darn it! There goes my plans to bake a Fogtainer fruitcake.  [crying]

Honestly Mike,

I thing we have enough fogtainer fruitcakes around here  [bite tongue] [poke]

 

[Paul Franklin]

So Peter.

When do you think these Fogtainers will ship?

Happy New Year

Paul

 

[Paul Franklin]

[poke]

 

[GPowers]

Anyone know yet if Peter is doing stickers or  printing?

 

[peter halle]

I'm back.  Yesterday I finished negotiating with the printer.  I needed a couple of answers before I felt comfortable.

The answer to the question of labels versus printing is :  BOTH!

I felt that it was important to offer those who wanted the printed version the promised printed version even though I believe the labels are superior in every way.  Those who want labels will get labels instead.  The labels will not have the green border that was pictured earlier in this thread so that the two different versions will look more similar.

The labels are more expensive to produce than the printing.  However, by eliminating the border and begging, and offering to install the labels myself on any desired past the 70+ at their facility, the cost will be the same for either model. I should now in the next day or so when the first batch is to be ready.  I plan to ship labelled ones first - it will be far more efficient for me.

So, the botched batch will definitely have labels and will ship first - so if you want yours first...

Those who have already purchased should expect an email from me asking for your preference.

Thanks for your patience.

Peter

edit:  emails sent