Is there anybody at Festool UK?

Roseland

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I’ve been a Festool fan for some years, and until August I’d have said their service was exemplary.

However, amongst my Festools is an OF1010.  From new, the depth pointer moved too freely on the scale, so that it was essentially useless.  I contacted Festool UK (18/8/2014) and spoke to an engineer in their Service Department - alas I didn’t get his name.  He said that they were all like that, that it was a known issue and there were no plans to change it.  But he did have the grace to say that I could send it in and they’d look at it.

On 20/8/2014 I requested a repair through the website, and had an email back (at 10:20am) saying that it would be collected next day.  I packaged it up carefully, with four layers of bubblewrap between the systainer and cardboard box.

The next day I stayed home all day and waited for the collection, but it didn’t come.  Next day I emailed and had a reply that it would be collected that day (21/8/2014), which it was.  Nonetheless, I’d stayed home for a day unnecessarily.

A week went by and I had heard nothing, so on 29/8/2014 I telephoned to be told that “they didn’t even have the parts yet”.  I explained that the following week I would be away, so please not to ship it back until 8/9/2014.

However when I returned from my trip (4/9/2014), the package was sitting out in the elements on my doorstep.  When I opened the box, there was no packaging at all between the systainer and the cardboard box.  It had obviously received a bash, as the plate on the front of the catch had come out and one of the lugs broken off.

On 8/9/2014 I wrote an email saying that the experience had been below that which I expected, and got back an automated reply saying they would contact me as soon as possible.

Having heard nothing, when I attended W14 (5/10/2014) I took a print out of the email to their stand, and spoke to their Marketing Manager, Jon Burcham.  He apologised, took the paper copy and, as I understood it, would make sure someone got back to me.

Having still heard nothing, I emailed again on 19/10/2014, and again got back the standard automated reply.

Yet another two weeks have gone by and still no response.  What does it take to get a reply?
 
I have had the same issues they routinely send tools back without any protection to the tool or systainer.

the last one I got back was a ets150/5 which was returned with the handle hanging out of a pathetic single walled  cardboard box with no other packaging .

It had been repaired though [big grin]

 
I can't help but comment on this, as the experience between you guys in the UK and we in the USA is so incredibly different. Here in the USA we receive excellent service, and product that comes back packaged like 'factory new'.

It sounds as though their shipping person (people?) need to have a refresher course in packing things - at the least. And if it's an 'attitude' problem, perhaps it's time for some more serious action? This shouldn't happen even once, let alone multiple times.

Perhaps Phil will weigh in on this shortly. I wish you the best in getting it resolved.
 
Apologies for the troubles with lack of responsiveness from Festool UK. We have a member of the Festool UK on the forum, Phil Beckley. I would suggest you contact him via PM or email. I have also emailed him regarding your post.
 
Shane thanks.  I'll let Phil call me.  The problem wasn't just the poor packaging, but the wrong pick-up date (who wants to stay home unnecessarily?), that it wasn't repaired promptly yet they didn't let me know there would be a delay, the fact it wasn't shipped back when I asked, and the lack or response to emails.

But happily they did fix, and now the depth adjustment does (for the first time ever) work as it should.

Andrew  :-)
 
Hi Roseland
Firstly an apology for the service standard you have recieved. I have taken this up and contacted our service department to see why this has happened and how we can improve the areas you have highlighted. I will get back to as soon as i can and hopefully restore your faith in us. Please if the need arises use me as a first point of contact and i will ensure you recieve the service our customers deserve.
Regards
Phil

I will send a P.M to you also.
 
I might have a comment and a few things to say about festool and I will be making a big deal about it with some youtube videos.

But I am awaiting to see if Festool will come good.  Been told its being sorted so I'll wait and see.

 
jmbfestool said:
I might have a comment and a few things to say about festool and I will be making a big deal about it with some youtube videos.

But I am awaiting to see if Festool will come good.  Been told its being sorted so I'll wait and see.

there must be something wrong at festool UK why have they not just taken the part from a bag they have in stock? or just send you a new one they probably cost all of a tenner to make..
 
Festoolfootstool said:
jmbfestool said:
I might have a comment and a few things to say about festool and I will be making a big deal about it with some youtube videos.

But I am awaiting to see if Festool will come good.  Been told its being sorted so I'll wait and see.

there must be something wrong at festool UK why have they not just taken the part from a bag they have in stock? or just send you a new one they probably cost all of a tenner to make..

Been told part is coming from Germany and they are doing it as a good will gesture
 
jmbfestool said:
Festoolfootstool said:
jmbfestool said:
I might have a comment and a few things to say about festool and I will be making a big deal about it with some youtube videos.

But I am awaiting to see if Festool will come good.  Been told its being sorted so I'll wait and see.

there must be something wrong at festool UK why have they not just taken the part from a bag they have in stock? or just send you a new one they probably cost all of a tenner to make..

Been told part is coming from Germany and they are doing it as a good will gesture

I'm intrigued  [popcorn]
 
I have to say I don't have much faith in Festool UK and it simply isn't good enough that something is only being done as they are being named and shamed on a public forum. That is not customer service, it's reactionary because they have to do it not because they want to do it.

 
Davej said:
jmbfestool said:
Festoolfootstool said:
jmbfestool said:
I might have a comment and a few things to say about festool and I will be making a big deal about it with some youtube videos.

But I am awaiting to see if Festool will come good.  Been told its being sorted so I'll wait and see.

there must be something wrong at festool UK why have they not just taken the part from a bag they have in stock? or just send you a new one they probably cost all of a tenner to make..

Been told part is coming from Germany and they are doing it as a good will gesture

I'm intrigued  [popcorn]

LoL wait and see if festool sort it.

If they do no videos lol sorry!

 
No videos? That would be a shame.

Really, Festool service in Europe is nothing compared to the USA. Only time I needed some servicing from Festool NL it took 4 emails to get an answer. Matter was not resolved of course and I had to contact Festool Germany directly to get it sorted. Which they did in the end. The German HQ was a lot better to deal with than its Dutch counterpart. [sad]

My experiences with DeWalt and Metabo service is much, much better.

 
Hi
Just to update you all.
Roseland has been contacted tonight and the points raised are being looked at.
The packaging concern has been passed on as raised by Roseland and Festoolfootstool
J.M.B has been contacted tonight and his issue will be resolved by the end of business Wednesday. Let me know via P.M, J.M.B.
Our service department will hold a certain level of spares - not the whole inventory.
The item J.M.B was after was missing a part so that was down to us to replace. This was not done and is now being corrected.

Customer service is an area i do care about, hence why i am on here representing Festool U.K. The points raised by the forum in this thread will go towards improving the service our Festool U.K customers recieve. It will achieve this as i pass this information to the relevant people for them to act on and it is done because we want to improve on a continious basis.
Please feel free to contact me with any other concerns you may have.

 
Regards

Phil
 
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I think that one of the reasons the NA Festool service [and more specifically the US] appears to be very good, is employees of Festool US such as Shane get instant feedback through the FOG.

Now we may see that through Phil's participation the amount of criticism of Festool UK on the FOG that I have read since I joined, should deminish and even be replaced by some praise.

The example of Phil's intervention here on behalf of good customers and promoters such as JMBFestool provides some argument that perhaps Festool Netherlands, Germany and even Australia should have their OFFICIAL FOG representatives.
 
Hi All
I have just joined the forum as i am or was going to build my woodworking tools based around festool. Now after reading this i am not so sure. I was looking at the new multitool but with the service i have just read about maybe i should be looking at dewalt. What i can not understand is that it takes not a penny to be polite or offer what is expected. It seems to me festool UK has weak management and a staff that do not really want to be there ?. I think Britain is very low on the ladder when it comes to customer service we could certainly learn a lot from the Americans. With the price we are paying for these tools i would expect the best without any quibble regards customer service. |I purchase a lot through reviews and research. Take Amazon for example, i sent 3 detail sanders back and all within  a 10 day period and they picked up and exchanged every one with in 2 days of reporting the fault. On that basis would i still purchase festool tools not sure now ? but will be purchasing from Amazon 100%. So if any festool manager or agent reads this take heed as you will loose a lot of business.
 
Raptorseviltwin,

Please don't dismiss Festool too quickly.  As I said in my opening sentence, my previous experience has been fantastic.  Yes, something has gone badly wrong in the last couple of months, but it may be something as simple as an IT system losing emails; I'd wait until we hear what Phil has to say.

I've got a Fein MultiMaster, and I'm still looking at the Vecturo.  The fence is unique to Festool and overcomes (I think) the biggest problem with all other multitools - starting a plunge without the blade jumping all over the surface!

Festool's products are second to none, and one bad experience isn't going to make me give up on them!

Andrew
 
Festool Uk is blessed with some staff that are better than festool deserve. so a lot of the staff do care. but even some of the long standing staff are fed up.

The staff turnover is very high which I would think is an indication of the working conditions within the company. Festool UK would 

prefer that the fog did not exist as they are regularly shown in a bad light.due to the shoddy treatment of customers.

what it comes down to at the end of the day you need the best tool for the job and in some cases that is Festool

and if you have an issue get hold of your rep for a solution, dont bother ringing the hq (based on my experiences)

and for balance I have had really piss poor service from dewalt  and bosch I will never buy off either of these companys again . and

that may appear to contradict my earlier statement but I doubt either company making anything I can get elsewhere..
 
I'd just like to say that Festoolfootstool's post is his opinion regarding some points.

I disagree on several points. I think Festool UK doesn't mind that the FOG exists and having Phil recently join the forum after having been very actively collaborating with me to support UK customers is a sign of that. Upper management gave their blessing for him to participate here. I would also take that as a step to outreach to the customer community to improve relations.

I would say that the comments about turnover and morale are speculative. I don't have any direct insight into that, but of the Festool UK employees I have personally met, I would say that they have not exhibited being 'fed up'.

As an observer, I would say that Festool UK has made a lot of progress recently in this respect just from the posts and feedback on the forum. I think they are moving in the right direction and applaud their progress.

Shane
 
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