New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48

[Shane Holland]

[member=41214]Phil Beckley[/member], when you return from holiday, could you please check to see if there's a mistake in the video regarding battery pairing, that only one battery can be paired at a time? Thank you.

 

[Tmakita]

I think they do mean one battery at the time for the pairing process,you can repeat the process 5 times to add all 5 batteries to the receiver. 

Also it will be nice for the receiver to recall  the batteries paired to it even though the vac is been switch from auto to manual or discconected from the power supply

 

[yetihunter]

So when are we getting these new hoses?
The vacs aren't going up in price, but the old
hoses are. 

 

[ach_78]

Any update on the one-battery-only pairing limitation and so on ?  [unsure]

 

[fellaPC]

timeframe on just the new hose being available here in USA? Unfortunately I don't think I can wait for the new Midi to come out but sure do like this hose

 

[pingvinlakrits]

New hoses are out and have a really good feel to them, feels like quite an improvement. I am replacing two old hoses, one worn out and one slightly tatty. First dealer was out of stock and was clearing the old hoses at 30% before getting more new hoses in... ...guess I'll get my hoses from the next vendor...

Regarding battery pairing it does make sense to only allow one pairing at any given time - you don't want your other battery tools to trigger the Vac all the time. I mean, the other batteries not hooked up to the vac would be activating the vac if it allowed pairing more than one battery at a time to the vac - that would be really annoying. 

 

[Gregor]

Regarding battery pairing it does make sense to only allow one pairing at any given time - you don't want your other battery tools to trigger the Vac all the time. I mean, the other batteries not hooked up to the vac would be activating the vac if it allowed pairing more than one battery at a time to the vac - that would be really annoying.

It would be more annoying in case you would have to constantly pair different batteries (or juggle one between tools) because of the need to use several different tools in parallel (not at the same time but constantly changing between tools).

 

[Coen]

Regarding battery pairing it does make sense to only allow one pairing at any given time - you don't want your other battery tools to trigger the Vac all the time. I mean, the other batteries not hooked up to the vac would be activating the vac if it allowed pairing more than one battery at a time to the vac - that would be really annoying.

It would be more annoying in case you would have to constantly pair different batteries (or juggle one between tools) because of the need to use several different tools in parallel (not at the same time but constantly changing between tools).

If you can run a hose.. you can run a cord.

For the price of batteries you can let the vac run for hours while there is no need.

So to me it's a big nothingburger.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Regarding battery pairing it does make sense to only allow one pairing at any given time - you don't want your other battery tools to trigger the Vac all the time. I mean, the other batteries not hooked up to the vac would be activating the vac if it allowed pairing more than one battery at a time to the vac - that would be really annoying.

It would be more annoying in case you would have to constantly pair different batteries (or juggle one between tools) because of the need to use several different tools in parallel (not at the same time but constantly changing between tools).

I still think it is more annoying having ALL tools trigger the Vac. Pairing can't be that bothersome when you switch batteries. Or is it? If so, theimplemented technology is at fault. I am going for the hose remote myself. Don't have any of them fancy batt's and leaving the Vac in Auto and clicking the hose end works for me.

 

[Rick Christopherson]

I still think it is more annoying having ALL tools trigger the Vac. Pairing can't be that bothersome when you switch batteries. Or is it? If so, theimplemented technology is at fault. I am going for the hose remote myself. Don't have any of them fancy batt's and leaving the Vac in Auto and clicking the hose end works for me.

Actually, the solution is pretty simple, had Festool chosen to take it. They could have simply allowed for a de-pairing function, activated by holding the button longer and triggering the tool. Then you could have as many batteries paired as you wished, but still be able to remove one if it needed to be. Instead, they de-pair automatically whether you want it or not, by turning the vac off.

 

[Gregor]

they de-pair automatically whether you want it or not, by turning the vac off.

No sale for me then.

 

[Mario Turcot]

Actually, the solution is pretty simple, had Festool chosen to take it. They could have simply allowed for a de-pairing function, activated by holding the button longer and triggering the tool. Then you could have as many batteries paired as you wished, but still be able to remove one if it needed to be. Instead, they de-pair automatically whether you want it or not, by turning the vac off.

By turning the vac off you mean unplug the power cord or turn the power button from auto to off right?

Since my vac is always on auto, this seems to be a good way to avoid false triggering.

Q: by turning the vac off it will un-pair all batteries or only the batteries that are close enough? Say I have a batterie in the shop and another one at the client location, do the later will be also un-paired or it's already un-paired by being too far.

 

[fellaPC]

they de-pair automatically whether you want it or not, by turning the vac off.

No sale for me then.

agreed... now lets discuss this new hose  [big grin]. Are there any secret agents working deep within Festool who can spill the beans on when the vacs in America will ship with them?

Also, Im wondering with the new braided fabric outer shell if chips/splinter material is more likely to get caught up in it as opposed to the current harder plastic hose.. I dont create much dust but do create larger/sharp chips from working with Dibond material (aluminum/plastic)

thoughts...???

 

[lablover]

Any sign of the new hoses in the U.S. yet. I need one in a bad way. Lol

 

[aloysius]

Electrolux vacs used similar hoses (much less flexible, mind) for a long period between the late 50's to the 80's or thereabouts.  Many of these venerable machines are still going, without any noticeable difficulties with fouling of the nylon outer braids.  I seem to recall they had a tendency to fray around "pinch points" from memory.

Given that this "technology" has already been proven in use for 60+ years already, fouling doesn't seem an issue at least with these high quality Swedish hoses.  Presumably if Festool's hose supply subcontractor can manage to make their own imitation half as well, then you're at least assured of a working life of at least 30 years or so!

 

[peter halle]

No word yet on when the hoses and updated CT scope of delivery will change to the best of my knowledge.

Peter

 

[johnrichardson]

My new smooth hose video it’s great unfortunately I will have to replace all my  hoses now!!

 

[fellaPC]

[attachimg=2]the Festool USA website now shows what looks like the new hose one the photos of their vacs. A few days ago the photos still showed the old hose so maybe they are about to start shipping them to USA??? But then I also noticed that when you click on the product and scroll down to all the items included with the vac, it still shows the old hose. So one photo shows new hose and another photo shows old hose... [blink]

 

[peter halle]

Just a heads up for those in the US; just because the images have changed doesn't mean that the product has changed.  Much of the internet and website work for Festool USA is now done in Germany and image population might be one of those across the board type of things across all country sites.

I virtually guarantee that Festool USA will make announcements about availability here once a date is set.

Peter

 

[yetihunter]

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They are as advertised, ladies and germs.
Can't speak on longevity, but so far, me likes.