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[Dave Ronyak]

Ed,

My wife and I have had this general life experience:  whenever we find a product we like, they quit making it.  

So you and all the Festoolie's out there best buy while you can!

General Q:  I have a Milwaukee 1/2" keyed Jacobs style chuck, 2 speed gearbox, hammer drill whose mfr tag states it was made in Germany.  I think that it might have been made by AEG.  Does anyone know?  Overall, I'm quite pleased with it, although I don't need to use it very much.

Dave R.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Ed,

I have no information on that "Swiss code", but if you make bad beer (er ... bier) in Germany, they boil you in it.

Dave R.

 

[EJB]

Ed,

My wife and I have had this general life experience:  whenever we find a product we like, they quit making it.  

So you and all the Festoolie's out there best buy while you can!

General Q:  I have a Milwaukee 1/2" keyed Jacobs style chuck, 2 speed gearbox, hammer drill whose mfr tag states it was made in Germany.  I think that it might have been made by AEG.  Does anyone know?  Overall, I'm quite pleased with it, although I don't need to use it very much.

Dave R.

Atlas Copco...AEG buys Milwaukee in the 90's

Then TTI buys AEG  (TTI:  Ryobi, Rigid,hoover, dirtdevil, homelite..etc)...HQ:  Hong Kong

from 2004:
TTI buys Atlas Copco brands: acquisition includes Milwaukee, AEG, and Drebo.(News)

Article date:
    November 1, 2004

Techtronic Industries (TTI) announced on August 30 that it will acquire the electric power tool and accessories business of Atlas Copco, which includes the Milwaukee Electric Tool, Atlas Copco Electric Tools GmbH (AEG), and Drebo carbide drill bits brands, for $626.6 million on a debt-free basis.

"The TTI Group is particularly excited about the superb engineering and manufacturing expertise represented at Milwaukee and AEG," said Horst J. Pudwill, TTI chairman and CEO, in the announcement. "This acquired expertise will further enhance our global ability to expand our entire product portfolio and enables us to work with Milwaukee's strong dealer base in the U.S., an

 

[nickao]

So where can I order the dust collection parts from?

I want them for my 625.

Do you have the part numbers?

Nick

 

[mwhafner]

Nick,

The DeWalt webpage shows it as part number DW6915. 

 

[nickao]

Thanks it does not look easy to get, but it looks like I can order the parts for it, weird.

One place lists in on the web site, but the site is a little cheezy, everyone else lists it as a discontinued item.

 

[EJB]

Nick,

Here is the link the Part web page.  You will need a service net registration to see this..I think..or call a BD/DW parts dealer in your area to order:

http://www.dewaltservicenet.com/Products/DocumentView.aspx?productid=4896&typeId=3315&documentId=227

You will need the following parts.  Qty in ().  The numbers noted are from the Art.  the actual DW part number is in the list below or at the link above

107-Housing (1)  main part!
109-Cap (1)
111-Screw (2)
112-thumb nut (2)
113- Fastener for hose holder (1)
114- Hose holder (1)

 

[EJB]

Thanks it does not look easy to get, but it looks like I can order the parts for it, weird.

One place lists in on the web site, but the site is a little cheezy, everyone else lists it as a discontinued item.

Nick,

I ordered them right online back in September of 2008.  Got um in 3 days with std shipping..  The part is redesigned and better than the original that I got with the router back in 91...  it works well and have used it many times this fall...  hope this helps.  PM me if you need more help and we can get in touch.

Ed

 

[nickao]

I  just  ordered the parts from Tool Barn I need to make it work and it ended up being only 24.95.

The DW6915 was 69.00 to 89.00 as a kit so it works out better.

Thanks,

Nick

 

[EJB]

The $24 mark looks correct.  It is interesting though.  I looked at the DW6915...at servicenet..there is a breakout of the parts..the full number  kit probably comnes with the hoses and bunch of stuff not listed that is why the cost is high(mine originally did)... In any event..it is the 6915 parts that I got..my housing that I show on my Elu is a a 2-part configuration...the 1 part in the DW625 docs above would probably work..as my original was a 1-part design..  it may be that the 6915 parts are the only one available now

Glad I could help  dig this stuff up.

Ed

 

[nickao]

Yes the kit comes with a bunch of other stuff.

I think at tool barn it was listed as a two piece, oh well I will see what they send.

Thanks again for bringing it to my attention, I never knew there was such an animal.

Nick

 

[Gene Howerton]

Great thread, I have the Elu router as well and ordered the parts, thanks again Festool Group.  I too ordered from Tool Barn.  I have not bought the 1400 because I like the Elu, but was not happy with the dust, now I have got that item taken care of.

 

[Frank Pellow]

I have both jigs and the Bosch is better.

...

I also have both and the Festool is much better. 

 

[nickao]

Frank I think we already agreed to disagree, but I did not think you had the 1590, I thought you had the 1587.

But the Festool is not MUCH better than the 1590 under any circumstance.

Can you really see the cut line on the Festool becasue I can not.

List why.

The festool may cut more square for woods 4 inches and thicker, but that is it.

The Bosch site line is better. Both dust collection is marginal at best.

The Bosch easily has as much power I believe more than the Trion. The Bosch feels more solid. The Festool is smaller.

What else? I know what I cut in my shop and I know that both are nice. I will stick to my impressions. 

If a tool is more than double in price it should be double the performance, to me they perform the same at worst and the Bosch is better at best, IMHO.

I totally agree you have your opinion, but I find it hard to believe it is not just Festool bias as I run both of these everyday.

Bosch's newest blade makes much more difference than the Jig Saws themselves. The new Bosch blade on either cut better then either with Bosch's older top of the line blade. Actually, my crappy craftsman with the new Bosch blade cuts darn near as well as both the jig Saws.

 

[Frank Pellow]

Nick, since we disagree, I just can't let statements like yours go by without stating my oposing opinion.  ;D

Power has never been a problem.

I can easily see the cut line on my Festool PS 2 E (pre-Trion) barrel-grip jig saw.  But, I seldom use the plastic thingy.

The main reason I prefer the Festool, is that I find it much easier to control and to follow the cut line.  And, I can follow it exactly!

I guess that some day in the future I will get to try the Bosch model that your favour.  Until then, my Festool jig saw is much better than my Bosch jig saw.

I definately do not have a Fesrool bias and often recommned non-Festrool products to friends.

 

[nickao]

Sounds right to me and I wanted to hear your reasons

Possibly when you give the 1590 a try you may like it as well as the Festool, but until you do you can not compare the two.

 

[mwhafner]

I can't really tell a major difference in the power of the Bosch and the Trion. 

The ergonomics are also about the same on the barrel-grip versions. 

Nick is correct about blades being the greatest difference maker.  Bosch's latest offerings are incredible. 

 

[marrt]

Ok, couple more questions about these jigsaws.  On the Bosch (or Festool) are the "fingers" that guide the blade adjustable?  The reason I ask...when I was examining the Bosch, I noticed that the fingers were fairly far apart, maybe 4-5 millimeters.  Then I pulled the lever to adjust the foot, moved the foot and closed the lever.  Now, the fingers were completely pressed together and would not move.  It looked like there was a button of the side of the saw that affected the finger tension.  I didn't have time to really play with it.

Also, on the Festool, after moving the foot, is there a detent when returning to zero...or do you have to rely on the poorly marked scale cast into the foot.  On both these saws, it seems that you can easily end up with the blade not perpendicular to the foot, which I would think increases friction on the blade.

 

[Eli]

Still get incredible tools..just less of a bargain...

Depends on your definition of bargain. Do you live stateside by any chance?  :

 

[mastercabman]

Ok, couple more questions about these jigsaws.  On the Bosch (or Festool) are the "fingers" that guide the blade adjustable?  The reason I ask...when I was examining the Bosch, I noticed that the fingers were fairly far apart, maybe 4-5 millimeters.  Then I pulled the lever to adjust the foot, moved the foot and closed the lever.  Now, the fingers were completely pressed together and would not move.  It looked like there was a button of the side of the saw that affected the finger tension.  I didn't have time to really play with it.

Also, on the Festool, after moving the foot, is there a detent when returning to zero...or do you have to rely on the poorly marked scale cast into the foot.  On both these saws, it seems that you can easily end up with the blade not perpendicular to the foot, which I would think increases friction on the blade.

There is a detente on the Festool to set the foot to zero.
On the Festool,you use a little hex wrench(it is mounted on the saw's foot)to adjust the "fingers" to the blade.