Some ergonomic improvements for future iterations

mcooley

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I've attached an image of the various tools I am addressing here. I guess because I use these tools so much and respect their general level of quality that I have found myself returning again and again to some "ergonomic" changes these tools could benefit from. To some this will sound like minor stuff but the interface where we actually come in contact with the tool itself is hugely important. I also have to say after reading that article last year about how Festool only has 2 in house designers, one very young and one very seasoned, that I worry the ergonomics on some of these tools are still lacking. Sometimes I see an "engineer's mind" at work more than a user-friendly industrial design based approach.

So, here, is some constructive feedback which I am sure most of you have already commented on.

> In all of the tools included here I have placed a superficial piece of "grip material" where I continually find a need and have yet to figure out why the "primary or secondary handles" on these units are smooth and not textured. For example, the Carvex Jigsaw has the textured grip on the barrel but is lacking on the "D Handle" where one obviously places their hand as well. The same for the TS 55 Tracksaw "plunging handle" which aside from being used to make cuts one also tends to lift the unit off the work surface here at this location. Dirty, sweaty or hasty hands make this task a little cumbersome.

> The barrel diameter of the Rotex 125 is of a diameter that after many hours results in a very uncomfortable grip. My hands are of average size.

> The lack of a light on both the Domino 500 and Router 1400 is continually frustrating, especially, in less than ideal work environments. I would love to see the "center mark" on the Domino illuminated and the router bit illuminated as well.

> The levers on the Domino 500 for the fence could be upgraded to a machined cam. I don't particularly like the feel of how they tighten and the build quality isn't great.

> The barrel grip on the Domino 500 is such that with average sized hands my knuckles normally come into contact with the exhaust port during plunging, so, I find myself holding the unit farther back near the exhaust vents.

> The continuous smooth power setting dials are great but like on the 1400 Router and other units a "slight indent or click" is still useful for preventing the dial to move on its own or for better control while moving the dial. The dial on the 1400 Router is so flush with the handle on the unit that it is difficult to know where it is set exactly.

> Lastly, unlike in other industries (sports? medicine?) where customized products have become more the norm I often wonder why we don't have more "ergonomic adjustment" with power tools. For instance, the ability to swap out handle shapes and diameters or more modular designs where monolithic enclosures are replaced with "modular components" that can be easily swapped out and replaced etc.

 

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Oh, and, I forgot the most perplexing omission of all which is the primary handle (the only handle in fact) on the 1400 Router which is without any textured grip making it very precarious to lift and walk with the unit.
 
Please don't rubberize more grips on the Festool tools!

The rubberized surfaces may provide more grip, but they can be highly uncomfortable over long hours of use, and are more likely to cause skin irritation and blisters. Once the grip surfaces are rubberized, there is not much that can be done to counteract the rubberized surface. With non rubberized surfaces it's easy to simply wear rubberized gloves, ir put some type of griction or grip tape on the tool grip surfaces to add extra grip if one finds it necessary. One of the reasons I haven't felt the desire to upgrade some older tools is because the newer versions in many cases have switched to using a rubberized surface which I find uncomfortable.

If Festool finds the need to add more "grip" to their tools, is there any you can look into using one of the non rubbery type surface materials used by some other German tool companies, like the Wiha Microfinish non slip type surface, or the Witte Microfiber type surface, both of which are designed to provide extra grip when ones hands might be coated with a slick substance like oil.

Alternately, if you have to add a rubberized surface, can you look into using one of the "harder" rubbery type surfaces like Santoprene, or whatever the material is that Facom uses on their pliers. Both of these are a slightly harder grippy material that doesn't feel like a rubber band. My understanding is that these materials may also br more durable in case one gats weird chemicals on your hands.

Also, I like the grooved surface on the front handle on the HL 850 planer, which seems based on the grip surfaces on some military knives/bayonets.

To the OP, i believe Porter Cable or one of the other professional power tool companies did offer adjustable grips on their cordless drills way back when. I think the adjustment was a remivable rubberized grip piece on the back of the handle. I'm not sure if this disappeared when Black&Decker purchased Porter Cable or before then. 
 
Rip Van Winkle said:
To the OP, i believe Porter Cable or one of the other professional power tool companies did offer adjustable grips on their cordless drills way back when. I think the adjustment was a remivable rubberized grip piece on the back of the handle. I'm not sure if this disappeared when Black&Decker purchased Porter Cable or before then.

Yeah, I think some of the drills came with multiple pads in different thicknesses. You could swap them to make the handle fatter or skinnier........... I think.

Seth
 
[member=32478]mcooley[/member] I'm really confused why this is posted in "Festool Tool Problems".

These are not faults or actual problems .. these are your personal preferences for changes.

For every change preference you suggest, there're probably multiple better alternatives, for example why stop at lights on the various tools - laser cross hairs could be even better!!! ... and make both available.

Anyway, by putting your suggestions in the wrong place they'll be read then ignored, you should put them it the wish list area as others do.
 
Kev said:
[member=32478]mcooley[/member] I'm really confused why this is posted in "Festool Tool Problems".

Ooops, missed that.  [embarassed] Now in Wish List.

Seth
 
If the Carvex has a swivel cord receptacle,
why couldnt the Domino, Vecturo, Rotex & the like have the same?
 
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