Switching to Tanos Boxes... seeking advice

They are part of the standard euro pallet form factor.

(20x30) -> 30x40 -> 40x60 -> 60x80 -> 80x120 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUR-pallet)
Back in my Woodworking Show days Tormek came to me on 80 x 120 pallets. When you load/unload a truck every Thursday/Sunday it doesn't take long to figure out the value of standardization. US pallets are all over the place in size, always out of sync with any other pallet, never fitting together across the box of a truck or trailer. 80 x 120s fit 2 across or 3 parallel. I got to the point we required everyone that we hauled for to use my pallets.
 
Mino, I 100% agree with you on this often-overlooked aspect of the Gen 1 Systainers in terms of using them in conjunction with the Sys-AZ drawers with the latches "open". I foolishly sold off a lot of my Gen 1 systainers when the T-Lock came out, I regret letting them go.

Unfortunately, I believe the Makpack line has been discontinued as well...

Also, those long, skinny orange dividers were great, I wish Festool would produce something similar for the Gen3 organizers....
The keyword to search for is “Mbox”. They have always had this name here and not Makpak and the contractors that work on my dayjob this system is by far the most used to this moment. Packout and Though are rare, just like original systainers are:
 
I've got 3 x ELU MOF177E routers
You're a lucky man !.. this is the best router ever made. I know there are Festool and Mafell routers that are "better" - I've got all of them.. but the MOF177E (made in Switzerland is the best version)... to think I've had this over 35 years and it is still going strong and still precise...
 
You're a lucky man !.. this is the best router ever made. I know there are Festool and Mafell routers that are "better" - I've got all of them.. but the MOF177E (made in Switzerland is the best version)... to think I've had this over 35 years and it is still going strong and still precise...
Was 'stock standard' equipment in joinery shops I worked at in the 90's/early 2000's, down here in Aus.
 
You're a lucky man !.. this is the best router ever made. I know there are Festool and Mafell routers that are "better" - I've got all of them.. but the MOF177E (made in Switzerland is the best version)... to think I've had this over 35 years and it is still going strong and still precise...
The MOF177E was the first good quality router I bought 40+ years ago, and still use regularly. Absolutely amazing machine. I was lucky enough over the years to come across 2 different people selling new old stock 177's unused in the cartons (don't even know how that happens), so snapped them up quick!

I think the OF2200 is the finest router ever made, but the 177's really hold their own as unbelievably rugged and reliable work horses!
 
Speaking of Systainers...

Has anyone built or used a Systainer cabinet that is double-stacked? Originally, I was thinking about a wheeled cabinet similar to a SYS PORT in style with Systainers in drawers on the front side and then storage Systainers (that wouldn't need to be accessed often) on the back side - you'd just spin it around to access the back. The cabinet would be 920mm high, 463mm wide and 600mm deep.

Today I was thinking that instead of accessing the back side, why not put in 24" drawer slides and have two systainers per shelf? Has anyone made something like this, or worked with this kind of setup? If so, how did you find it? Thanks!
 
Having 2 systainers per pull out shelf has been shown here before, usually in combination with a MFT cart, BUT searching for it will probably be a pain and there might be a lack of images. I hope someone helps you out.

Peter
 
Yeah, I have seen it done, but I don't remember who? Maybe @woodbutcherbower he has something unique about the way his worked, in his van. I don't remember exactly what though.
Mine are deeper than the need to be, for a single, but not enough for two. I just use the space behind for consumables (sandpaper, accessories, jigs, etc
 
Yeah, I have seen it done, but I don't remember who? Maybe @woodbutcherbower he has something unique about the way his worked, in his van. I don't remember exactly what though.
Mine are deeper than the need to be, for a single, but not enough for two. I just use the space behind for consumables (sandpaper, accessories, jigs, etc
I remember you posting about that and thinking "that's a clever idea." and even bought 14" slides with that in mind (for the under the workbench sys storage that "I'm still planning").
 
Thankfully they are still available in Europe. They even introduced new assortment boxes lately in the SYS I form factor. They still source their original SYS-SORTs and other non-common types from TANOS. Not sure who makes the Makpaks for them though.


I guess Makita just withdrew these from the US, given how even the Systainers are seen as "fragile" in that market.

Really, Makpak never made sense in the US as here Systainer pretty much means Festool, and the fact that the Makpak were based on the old Systainers that don't play all that well with Systainer³s as another strike against them.

Now with MAKTRAK, I wish Makita USA would abandon the blow mold cases and ship more tools (like their framing nailers) in a MAKTRAK instead.

That said, I love my Systainer³s and have purchased way too many of them over the past year.

I'd caution anyone looking at TANOS to check Festool first; several boxes are now cheaper as their Festool variants than the TANOS models on the US Systainer Store (for example, the TANOS Systainer³ Sortainer/3 M 337 is $155 at the Systainer Store site, the Festool version is now $139.)
 
.. were based on the old Systainers that don't play all that well with Systainer³s as another strike against them.
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Care to elaborate ?

The SYS3 compatibility with Classics is identical as with the T-Locs. As in, all the "normal" size ones interlock with Classics. No issues that I am aware of.

Also, I have mentioned it specifically because Classics /and Makpacs/ are superior for drawer use in a shop - which the OP may not have been aware of.
 
Care to elaborate ?

The SYS3 compatibility with Classics is identical as with the T-Locs. As in, all the "normal" size ones interlock with Classics. No issues that I am aware of.

Also, I have mentioned it specifically because Classics /and Makpacs/ are superior for drawer use in a shop - which the OP may not have been aware of.
You can just pop the T off and then clearance in a drawer is just as good as the Classic Sys.
 
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