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Like Mike said roll the table saw up on a piece of 18 mm ply and call it done.
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Do you need access to the top of the bolts? Are they carriage bolts? Just thinking if you can turn it over and even use needle-nose type vise-grips to lightly hold the ends of the bolts you might get the nuts off and reuse them without too much effort.
Here's what I would try as far as vise grips - https://www.amazon.com/Irwin-14-6LN-4-Inch-Capacity-6-Inch/dp/B00004SBB3/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1547403277&sr=8-15&keywords=vise+grip+pliers
I guess you glued and screwed the cabinets to that bottom? So no easy way to separate -
That would seem to be the easiest and fastest choice.
Here's what I would try as far as vise grips - https://www.amazon.com/Irwin-14-6LN-4-Inch-Capacity-6-Inch/dp/B00004SBB3/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1547403277&sr=8-15&keywords=vise+grip+pliers
I guess you glued and screwed the cabinets to that bottom? So no easy way to separate -
That would seem to be the easiest and fastest choice.
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[member=65483]Mikeoutrage[/member] you know what? I never ever though of raising the Tablesaw. I for the first time put the top on the base just last night and I instantly realize my mistake 
Raising the tablesaw address two of my concerns. First it set the table saw and outfeed table at a perfect outfeed level, making the table saw 2mm higher then the outfeed. Second it fix the mental problem I have about dust going under the table saw cabinet. The tablesaw is sitting on a shopfox rolling base and there is always saw dust between the base frame and the cabinet. With a 18mm ply under the table saw I will still have saw dust but it will be a lot easier to vaccuum [smile]. However I will need the help of 3 other peoples to lift the 54" table saw.
[member=167]neilc[/member] the whole thing is a 9 pieces table. Each piece is glued and domino/screwed. To hold everything together I only used GRK screws no glue. I can disassemble all pieces if I want without breaking anything. [big grin]
To replace the wheels I may have to disassemble all 4 corner cubes. For some obscure reasons I used 1/4" countersink bolts and had to cut the bolts shorter with an angle grinder + I used nylon nuts [eek] The bolts will for sure turn on them self [crying]
Thank you for the suggestions, I will sleep on that and take a decision tomorrow [wink]
Raising the tablesaw address two of my concerns. First it set the table saw and outfeed table at a perfect outfeed level, making the table saw 2mm higher then the outfeed. Second it fix the mental problem I have about dust going under the table saw cabinet. The tablesaw is sitting on a shopfox rolling base and there is always saw dust between the base frame and the cabinet. With a 18mm ply under the table saw I will still have saw dust but it will be a lot easier to vaccuum [smile]. However I will need the help of 3 other peoples to lift the 54" table saw.
[member=167]neilc[/member] the whole thing is a 9 pieces table. Each piece is glued and domino/screwed. To hold everything together I only used GRK screws no glue. I can disassemble all pieces if I want without breaking anything. [big grin]
To replace the wheels I may have to disassemble all 4 corner cubes. For some obscure reasons I used 1/4" countersink bolts and had to cut the bolts shorter with an angle grinder + I used nylon nuts [eek] The bolts will for sure turn on them self [crying]
Thank you for the suggestions, I will sleep on that and take a decision tomorrow [wink]
Hi Mario. I guess the other issue to think about is if you are trying to match the height of any of your other tables or rolling tools ect. then leaving the table as is might be an issue for you...
Moving your table saw by yourself is harder, but possible.
I have 2 of these....https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.inflatable-reusable-shim-300-lbs.1001043193.html
The air bags are very handy for leveling things ect. I moved my 350 bandsaw onto a mobile base with them and some doweling..was very easy.
Pump up one side of table saw, insert a few dowels a bit higher than plywood you are putting under saw...roll saw out of way, lay plywood...roll saw back on plywood...pump up saw base remove dowels....worked great for me...also for leveling benches ect.
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Moving your table saw by yourself is harder, but possible.
I have 2 of these....https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.inflatable-reusable-shim-300-lbs.1001043193.html
The air bags are very handy for leveling things ect. I moved my 350 bandsaw onto a mobile base with them and some doweling..was very easy.
Pump up one side of table saw, insert a few dowels a bit higher than plywood you are putting under saw...roll saw out of way, lay plywood...roll saw back on plywood...pump up saw base remove dowels....worked great for me...also for leveling benches ect.
Greg
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[member=8389]gnlman[/member] Thank you for the tip. I will look for those next time I go to HD since I often need another set of hands 
My table saw is 550lbs do you think they are strong enough for that?
I could not wait for tomorrow and since I already have smaller wheels I begin removing them one at a time and putting back the cubes as I go. I'm on coffee break after 2 wheels change [big grin]
I actually replacing 4" wheels for 3" [embarassed]
Interesting how price fluctuate, I bought that table saw two years ago during a BusyBeeTools garage sale and I payed 1900$ tax included. [jawdrop]
My table saw is 550lbs do you think they are strong enough for that?
I could not wait for tomorrow and since I already have smaller wheels I begin removing them one at a time and putting back the cubes as I go. I'm on coffee break after 2 wheels change [big grin]
I actually replacing 4" wheels for 3" [embarassed]
Interesting how price fluctuate, I bought that table saw two years ago during a BusyBeeTools garage sale and I payed 1900$ tax included. [jawdrop]
Hi Mario. Yeah a bit more work to replace wheels, but worth it to get your height where you want it.
Well I believe they are rated for 300 pounds so I'd use 2..mind you, if you are only lifting one side, one bag might work. I usually use one bag to lift, and if I need the item higher I shim with wood but leave enough space for second bag (deflated) on top of dunnage...let air out of first bag start pumping second bag until you reach height you need. I bought mine at KMS tools, but I know amazon also sells them as well. I've used them a lot...great for levelling things as it takes pressure off levellers making the easy to adjust then let air out of bag and check adjustment....if still off just pump bag up again.
Greg
Well I believe they are rated for 300 pounds so I'd use 2..mind you, if you are only lifting one side, one bag might work. I usually use one bag to lift, and if I need the item higher I shim with wood but leave enough space for second bag (deflated) on top of dunnage...let air out of first bag start pumping second bag until you reach height you need. I bought mine at KMS tools, but I know amazon also sells them as well. I've used them a lot...great for levelling things as it takes pressure off levellers making the easy to adjust then let air out of bag and check adjustment....if still off just pump bag up again.
Greg
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The difference between the 4" and 3" should be enough. Hopefully both wheels plate are the same size and spacing.
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Was easy to remove each corner to replace the wheels.
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And now the table fit under the table saw fence. [big grin]
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Closing the shop for the night.
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Was easy to remove each corner to replace the wheels.
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And now the table fit under the table saw fence. [big grin]
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Closing the shop for the night.
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gnlman said:
Thank you Greg. Yes they are from LV. Expensive but effective [smile]
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Nice job Mario... [smile]. It's coming together well.
I really like the track system for the VAC SYS. [cool]
With the polypro cutting board under each SYS VAC unit, you can now evacuate each cavity area under the SYS VAC. Using those cavities will give you approximately 10X more time in case of an electrical failure.
I really like the track system for the VAC SYS. [cool]
With the polypro cutting board under each SYS VAC unit, you can now evacuate each cavity area under the SYS VAC. Using those cavities will give you approximately 10X more time in case of an electrical failure.
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Thank you [member=44099]Cheese[/member] I will post a picture with the VAC-SYS bases on. I still have to install the teflon cutting board to the second base and I'm in business with some ways to clamp boards finally [big grin]
I still have a lot to do on the table.
- Install the VAC-SYS pump on a drawer for easy access,
- Manage the tubes in a way that it's going to be easy to remove and put back the bases without having to deal with the tubes all over the table,
- More drawers on each side to store the DF500 and eventually the DF700
-Shelves for the mini-systainers,
-Vertical drawers for the cubes to goes all the way on each side. I will Probably store my table saw blades and accessories in those drawers,
-10 thin drawers for hardware,
-Install some power outlets,
-Finally, rounding corners, sanding and put a few coats of hard wax.
Did I missed anything? Oh yeah a kraft paper roll holder [smile]
The next project will be a easy to remove/light MFT top to sit on it [smile]
I didn't put dog holes on the actual top because it's a torsion box and I would have to make holes on both sides. [sad]
More to come soon..
I still have a lot to do on the table.
- Install the VAC-SYS pump on a drawer for easy access,
- Manage the tubes in a way that it's going to be easy to remove and put back the bases without having to deal with the tubes all over the table,
- More drawers on each side to store the DF500 and eventually the DF700
-Shelves for the mini-systainers,
-Vertical drawers for the cubes to goes all the way on each side. I will Probably store my table saw blades and accessories in those drawers,
-10 thin drawers for hardware,
-Install some power outlets,
-Finally, rounding corners, sanding and put a few coats of hard wax.
Did I missed anything? Oh yeah a kraft paper roll holder [smile]
The next project will be a easy to remove/light MFT top to sit on it [smile]
I didn't put dog holes on the actual top because it's a torsion box and I would have to make holes on both sides. [sad]
More to come soon..
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Cheese said:
You know what? I used the VAC-SYS 10 days ago and last weekend I was moving stuff and put a board on the base and the board got sucked to it [eek] Not strong holding but still I feel some pressure
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Mario Turcot said:
That's slick Mario...and also SICK as they say in the motor-head community. [big grin] [big grin] Me likey!!!
Is that octopus of tubing a problem? It would be nice if you could somehow bundle that to be out of the way. [smile]
One of my mantras that I regularly repeat on a weekly, almost daily basis is that:
I HATE electrical cords
I HATE wires
I HATE hoses.
So for me going cordless is pure bliss. That's my end game. [smile]
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Cheese said:
Pretty much the same feeling about wires and hoses [mad]
That's my next challenge. I want the bases easy to remove and put back. I will probably put two quick disconnects through the top. I have to brainstorm on that [cool]
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Mario Turcot said:
Just thinking on this, the board between the tracks is just a filler strip. So if you ran a manifold system in that space or allowed the hoses to coil & uncoil (partially hidden) in that space, that may tidy up the hose issue.
Think plumbing from the pump directly up into the filler space and then branch out from there. Just an idea. [big grin]
Quick disconnects are you're friends. [smile]
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[member=66597]Mario Turcot[/member] I'm not quite sure how I missed your thread but I wish I had saw it sooner. We're after somewhat similar goals of incorporating the Vac Sys into a mobile cart. Mine is a lot less ambitious though. http://festoolownersgroup.com/member-projects/vac-sys-mobile-cart/
I'm still cooking up some ideas for the top but I, too, would like to add quick disconnect to the base hose(s). I have a drawer almost complete that should be pretty slick for holding the extra vacuum heads.
I'm still cooking up some ideas for the top but I, too, would like to add quick disconnect to the base hose(s). I have a drawer almost complete that should be pretty slick for holding the extra vacuum heads.
DynaGlide said:
Maybe a little late for this .. but I've recently began following Bentswoodworking on Instagram and he just finished an MFT cart with Vac Sys incorporated ... take a look. I think he may have a video on his YouTube channel also?
Bentswoodworking MFT cart ..
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Yes I watched that video the day it was out [big grin]
He did a greeeeeeat job on that cart. Mine will not use a Festool MFT but a custom MFT top only.
I still have a lot to do on it. Like breaking the sharp edges on the torsion box and add power strips on both sides & more. I figure i should be done by June [eek]
TrackTubesGuy said:
Yes I watched that video the day it was out [big grin]
He did a greeeeeeat job on that cart. Mine will not use a Festool MFT but a custom MFT top only.
I still have a lot to do on it. Like breaking the sharp edges on the torsion box and add power strips on both sides & more. I figure i should be done by June [eek]
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