those that have the 1400 and the 2200 or just the 2200 question

[peter halle]

Plouf,

I think that Scott was referring to using 2 edge guides like in this link.  That was shown here somewhere also, but it was easier for me to find this example:

Router Techniques - Festool USA Blog Entry

Peter

 

[plouf]

Hi Peter,

I think that Scott was referring to using 2 edge guides like in this link.  That was shown here somewhere also, but it was easier for me to find this example:

Router Techniques - Festool USA Blog Entry

Thanks for this interesting link. They even demonstrate an alternative to the pricey plexiglas jig with these guides.

Didn't know about this festool blog before but will RSS it from now on!

- plouf -

 

[rxe]

I'd like to come back on this point with a question. If you decide for the of 2200 over the 1400, are there many things you won't be able to do (or do easily) with a OF 1010? 

A few years back I was using a Leigh dovetail jig quite a bit.  The router I had was an Elu MOF 177 - brilliant machine, just as much grunt as the 2200, but just as heavy.  Hanging onto this brute all day was killing me.  The 1010 was lighter, quieter, and had better dust collection.    I then got a router table and the Elu went into that, so I got the 2200 to work as a handheld 1/2".    You can do pretty much anything with a 1010 that doesn't need brute force and a 1/2" bit.  I use it for rebating (most common use), LR-32 hole making, templating and dovetails.  The 2200 does BIG rebating, flattening, that sort of stuff.  The ELU does panel raising, or really repetitive rebating (like making bee-hives).

 

[plouf]

Rxe,

Thanks!

At first, I planned to buy the OF 1010, thinking that I would see where were the limits, and then decide if a bigger second router (read: the OF 2200) was necessary for me.

After parsing so many messages on forums, blogs and opinions lately, I decided that I'd do the opposite instead: see if there is something that the OF 2200 can't really do for me (or rather can't really do easily) before buying a lighter router.

One of the reasons for this decision is'nt a really positive one. I've read that the OF 1010 is one of the tools Festool could replace in the near future (or so?). While I have no clue, I would hate to buy it now and, after a few weeks, discover that a new "light router" was launched.

- plouf -

 

[spikfot]

Don't forget about the OF2000, it's a far simpler machine, but less than 1/2 the price of an OF2200.
The OF2000 is a Mafell at heart, and more than big enough for raised panel work in a table. Key feature- triple shaft bearings...runs like a jet motor. Only dislike- no motor brake.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

One of the reasons for this decision is'nt a really positive one. I've read that the OF 1010 is one of the tools Festool could replace in the near future (or so?). While I have no clue, I would hate to buy it now and, after a few weeks, discover that a new "light router" was launched.

As someone "in the know", I can definitively say that I have neither seen nor heard any information about the OF 1010 being discontinued, replaced, updated, upgraded, etc. So, I would like to debunk any rumor of it being replaced.

Edit: I should mention that I see new product information well in advance of any planned launch in Europe or the US.

 

[MrToolJunkie]

Plouf,

I think that Scott was referring to using 2 edge guides like in this link.  That was shown here somewhere also, but it was easier for me to find this example:

Router Techniques - Festool USA Blog Entry

Peter

Here are a couple of other links for the edge guide in addition to the one Peter provided - one is a review I did on it last year http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tool-reviews/review-of-festool-of2200-edge-guide-(product-no-494680)/

I also shot a short video of using the two guides for cutting grooves: http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-how-to/groovin'-with-the-of2200/

Of course these techniques are not limited to the OF2200 -- I believe that these would work with any of the Festool routers. 

Scot

 

[MrToolJunkie]

Rxe,

Thanks!

At first, I planned to buy the OF 1010, thinking that I would see where were the limits, and then decide if a bigger second router (read: the OF 2200) was necessary for me.

After parsing so many messages on forums, blogs and opinions lately, I decided that I'd do the opposite instead: see if there is something that the OF 2200 can't really do for me (or rather can't really do easily) before buying a lighter router.

One of the reasons for this decision is'nt a really positive one. I've read that the OF 1010 is one of the tools Festool could replace in the near future (or so?). While I have no clue, I would hate to buy it now and, after a few weeks, discover that a new "light router" was launched.

- plouf -

Plouf,

This is exactly what I did -- bought the OF2200 first and then added a 1010 later when I needed to route some grooves in a confined space and the OF2200 was too big.  I also use the OF1010 on my Dovetail jig as the OF2200 is a bit too heavy for this task.  It is a perfect combination of routers in my opinion and you really cannot go wrong with either one.

Scot

 

[plouf]

As someone "in the know", I can definitively say that I have neither seen nor heard any information about the OF 1010 being discontinued, replaced, updated, upgraded, etc. So, I would like to debunk any rumor of it being replaced.

Thanks Shane, that's really valuable insight!

So, if I was tempted to add someday the OF 1010 to my future 2200 (which should be delivered here around mid-January, I've ben told this afternoon), I know I can do it without too many second thoughts...

 

[plouf]

Here are a couple of other links for the edge guide in addition to the one Peter provided

Many thanks for the links, Scot!

I just read carefully your review, that I discovered a couple of hours ago in the forum archives!

And the video you shot gives a very good idea of the trick. I certainly will try it myself before deciding to add the plexiglas jig to my tools list. Looks like you really didn't need it to make clean work!

- plouf -

 

[MrToolJunkie]

Here are a couple of other links for the edge guide in addition to the one Peter provided

Many thanks for the links, Scot!

I just read carefully your review, that I discovered a couple of hours ago in the forum archives!

And the video you shot gives a very good idea of the trick. I certainly will try it myself before deciding to add the plexiglas jig to my tools list. Looks like you really didn't need it to make clean work!

- plouf -

Thanks, Plouf.  The two edge guides works very, very well.  However, the Template is easy to set and it provides added stability, especially if you are routing sideways on the edge of your work.  You can modify it to cut sliding dovetails easily too -- Brice Burell has one example using MDF and double stick tape and Jerry Work also uses it, but he modified the template a little and his method does not employ any MDF fences.  The edge guides work great when your stock is not thick to cover the distance of the template sides.  For routing deep mortises on thick stock, I think that the template is the better option.  Using two edge guides is good too.  It is nice to have options and flexibility.

Scot

 

[honeydoman]

Well I just ordered the 2200. And I will have it on Thursday. Will make some cabinet doors this weekend for a
Built in I Am doing sat and Monday. And will see it In action!!

Thanks for all the good feedback. I ordered the one with the t-loc Systainer

 

[plouf]

Well I just ordered the 2200. And I will have it on Thursday.

So did I. But you're more lucky. I'll have to wait a couple of weeks to get mine, here...

 

[tiralie]

Well I just ordered the 2200. And I will have it on Thursday. Will make some cabinet doors this weekend for a
Built in I Am doing sat and Monday. And will see it In action!!

Thanks for all the good feedback. I ordered the one with the t-loc Systainer

Kreg:
If you didn't get it you will probably want the base accessory kit package as well.
I find I use a fair amount of those bases, regularly.
Tim

 

[jmbfestool]

Simples!   

[not worthy] [not worthy] [not worthy] [not worthy]OF2200 [not worthy] [not worthy] [not worthy]

No hesitation!  Im thinking of getting another in the future!  No joke! I do!  Leave one in my CMS setup!  Its an amazing router best router I have ever used!

My work mates LOVE IT they all thought they had okay router and also thought a router is a router!  After using my OF2200 they are LIKE WOW

I say no more!

JMB

 

[RonMiller]

Kreg, I took an informal poll at the beginning of this thread and every person on FOG agreed that you would be buying this by the end of the thread...so what took you so long?  [wink] [big grin]

 

[honeydoman]

ron,  lol  !  had to wait for a check to credit to my account ! so i could spend it asap  and i did !

 

[honeydoman]

well i received the 2200 today in the t-loc systainer and had a chance to use it a bit today, but i am going to use it tomorrow and make some mdf doors with my bits from whiteside that can make a cabinet door out of mdf and make it look like a raised panel etc.. see how I like them...

 

[MrToolJunkie]

Are you going to take a video?

Scot

 

[ccarrolladams]

Kreg, welcome to the club for those of us with OF1400 and OF2200.

It is no secret that I owned several OF1010 and one OF2200 before the OF1400 was available in the USA. I was used to the convenience of the OF1010 and liked the mass of the OF2200 when I needed "More Power!" Consequently I seldom reach for my OF1400, yet I am comforted knowing it is there, in a Systainer with unique accessories and with another Systainer next to it on the shelf holding even more necessary things.