TS60 110volt in the US. Plug-it installed

Crazyraceguy

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I, along with a fabulous co-conspirator, went through a lot of effort to get a TS60 from the UK. With the exception of the plug, it is just like the NA unit, hardwired and all.
We started messing with this project a couple of weeks ago, then the saw got backordered on his end. It came in a few days earlier than predicted, which turned out to be the day before the pre-order announcement for the NA market  [eek] We all kind of assumed that they weren't going to be here until fall?
In for a penny, in for a pound at that point (wow that is literally the way it worked, never happened to me before) I paid for it in GBP (pounds)
It left the UK on Friday and hit my door at 11:00 today. In less time than it took to open the boxes, I swapped the plug on the end of that fancy green cable. It's not nearly as fat as it looked in the pictures that [member=75780]woodbutcherbower[/member] posted. Must have been an optical illusion.
The size comparison is kind of misleading. It is definitely bigger than the TS55, but not a lot. The main thing is the motor housing, it doesn't stick out nearly as much as the others.
The upper handle is quite a bit different too, but I really don't use it that way. The biggest thing to notice is that the hex wrench is nolonger there. I was very confused at first, even resorting to looking in the manual.... [big grin] That was no help though. It shows the blade change procedure, Fast-fix, move the body down and lock, then "magically" it appears in your hand. They never tell you where to get it from.
Well, the trick is simple. If you actually flip the Fast-fix lever, it is magic! The thing is right there in the lever itself. Apparently, they don't need to tell you, it's self-explanatory.
I didn't get to test it out a whole lot, but after making sure it was good with my rails, it cut very well.
The sound is quite different, but everything is familiar and feels good. I made a couple of cuts through a double stack of 3/4" ply.
This is not meant to be an exhaustive test/review, just first impressions. I like it and as long as it can do the 45 degree bevel though 1 1/2 inches, that all I need it to do, beyond the TS55's ability.
Will it replace my TS55, probably not, but I'm an excessive weirdo. I'll just keep different blade types on them and keep all three. If I didn't already have the TS55, I would go strait for the TS60.

1st in the US, certainly not. Sedge has shown them a few times already and I'm sure there are some influencer types who already have one in their shops, but they're not allowed to say it yet. First in the hands of a commoner....I think so [wink]

I almost forgot. He sent me the pizza cutter too! It's the cutest little thing. I didn't know it was coming, so no pizza to cut though. I think they missed the boat with the naming though, it should be PS60. I imagine they didn't want to confuse it with the jig saws, since they have the PS name
 

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I'd still claim 'first in the US' - influencers, whatever they actually are, don't count!
 
You got the sexy green cord...I don't think the US version comes with that cord...it's boring black.  [smile]

The hex key storage is similar to the TSC 55 KEB saw.

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Cheese said:
The hex key storage is similar to the TSC 55 KEB saw.

Same on both the HK and HKC 55.  Apparently I've only ever changed the blade on my HKC because I thought that all of the saw held the keys in that same location.  I just checked my TS55 to make sure I wasn't imagining things, and sure enough, nothing under the FastFix.

That motor housing is crazy narrow!
 
squall_line said:
That motor housing is crazy narrow!

Yea, if you are using tall dogs for guide rail cuts that totally eliminates the problem of the motor running into them.

Too bad it's not cordless, I'm spoiled now by the TSC.

Rmw
 
Cheese said:
You got the sexy green cord...I don't think the US version comes with that cord...it's boring black.  [smile]

The hex key storage is similar to the TSC 55 KEB saw.

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That industrial polyurethane cord is pretty much indestructible and is very, very hard. Gues that comes only with the 110V UK version dedicated for the construction sites.

I use it for embedding in the hose - the flying debris does not abrade it and its hardness kinda matches the hose, so fine there too. One should be careful having it slide over some sharp furniture edge .. pulled over softwood it works like a file.

For those after tool porn, IMO it is not an optimal cord for general use due to that hardness. May still work with certain workflows.
 
So I will ask this even though I probably know the answer, any foreseen advantage to having the UK version with the removable/replaceable cord, over the USA version?

I assume that is the only difference.
Any online dealers selling the new version?  I have been waiting for the TS60 for over 2 months, as I didn't wish to purchase the TS55 unless it was really discounted.
 
I used it a little more today, nothing particularly difficult, no bevels yet. In the hand, it feels very similar to the TS55, as far as weight/balance. As a left-handed user, I don't really "see" the motor and housing during the cut. The sound of it starting/running is the most notable difference. I haven't really cut anything that would test it for power, though it did go through 1 1/2" of ply like it was nothing.
I don't really notice any negative to the green cord, other than wanting to stay coiled up, but it's new and hasn't had time to relax. Plus, being attached "permanently" it has to get rolled up to fit in the Systainer.
Hopefully, it will relax after a while, since I like the look.
 
keithwwalker said:
So I will ask this even though I probably know the answer, any foreseen advantage to having the UK version with the removable/replaceable cord, over the USA version?

I assume that is the only difference.
Any online dealers selling the new version?  I have been waiting for the TS60 for over 2 months, as I didn't wish to purchase the TS55 unless it was really discounted.

The cord is not removable....yet. It's only the 220-240v version that has Plug-it from the factory.
The only advantage is time. When we first hatched this plan, there was nothing but talk and speculation about when they would be available in the US. By the time it actually happened, that time changed dramatically. Now the wait is only 2 weeks. They will be available to ship on 6/21, but I don't know what that means to brick and mortar stores?
I wouldn't depend on a discount. It seems that they still consider the TS55 to be the flagship model and the TS60 is for those who require that little bit extra.
Hope that helps.
 
Crazyraceguy said:
The main thing is the motor housing, it doesn't stick out nearly as much as the others.
I consider it a great advantage. Countless times I had to change clamping or registering setup because the motor on TS55/75 would not clear.
 
Richard/RMW said:
squall_line said:
That motor housing is crazy narrow!

Yea, if you are using tall dogs for guide rail cuts that totally eliminates the problem of the motor running into them.

Too bad it's not cordless, I'm spoiled now by the TSC.

Rmw

I wouldn't bank on a cordless model being as much narrower than the TSC55 as the TS60K is compared to the TS55, especially since the TSC55 is already brushless and has the batteries mounted where they are.  But I've been plenty wrong before.
 
Richard/RMW said:
squall_line said:
That motor housing is crazy narrow!

Yea, if you are using tall dogs for guide rail cuts that totally eliminates the problem of the motor running into them.

Too bad it's not cordless, I'm spoiled now by the TSC.

Rmw

The motor is entirely within the baseplate, so yeah, dog height would not be an issue. Plus, it is really stable when you set in on its side for blade changes.

I used it some more today, just cutting access panels for the next desk. It was nothing that the TS55 hasn't done hundreds of times, just messing with the new.
 
So how long before someone gets the gumption to try and convert the hardwired plug into a Plug-It cord for the TS60?  It's got to be a relatively simple conversion.  Warranties aside... someone's got to go for it!
 
Tony from Pandora said:
So how long before someone gets the gumption to try and convert the hardwired plug into a Plug-It cord for the TS60?  It's got to be a relatively simple conversion.  Warranties aside... someone's got to go for it!

CRG [member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member] is all over it.  [cool]  He'll chime in probably later.
 
I was about to buy my first set of Festool including a TS55 and MFT/3, but seeing this has made me hesitate. For someone with no experience using Festool (nor a track saw), I can’t tell how annoying the hardwired cord would be. I’d have a mostly stationary CT and also be using a domino/OF1400/sander in the same place so the plug it sounds ideal, but do you think the pros of the TS60 outweigh that con? I know some are firm on the need for a riving knife as well, and since I primarily work with hardwoods this is also a confusing point in my decision making. Would love to hear if the rest of the changes are worth it or not.
 
mavbo said:
I was about to buy my first set of Festool including a TS55 and MFT/3, but seeing this has made me hesitate. For someone with no experience using Festool (nor a track saw), I can’t tell how annoying the hardwired cord would be. I’d have a mostly stationary CT and also be using a domino/OF1400/sander in the same place so the plug it sounds ideal, but do you think the pros of the TS60 outweigh that con? I know some are firm on the need for a riving knife as well, and since I primarily work with hardwoods this is also a confusing point in my decision making. Would love to hear if the rest of the changes are worth it or not.

It really does depend upon how you plan on using the saw. I had 2 different TS 55's, both had riving knives. I now have a TSC 55 K and a Mafell MT 55, neither have a riving knife. I certainly don't miss the riving knife but the saws are used for plywood 75% of the time. If I was ripping 2" hardwood 75% of the time, maybe that riving knife would be a must have thing?

Same thing for corded vs cordless, if I'm cutting outside give me a cordless saw with a dust bag. If I'm cutting in the house, then it's worthwhile to pull out a CT and connect it to a corded saw.

And  [welcome]  to the FOG!
 
mavbo said:
I was about to buy my first set of Festool including a TS55 and MFT/3, but seeing this has made me hesitate. For someone with no experience using Festool (nor a track saw), I can’t tell how annoying the hardwired cord would be. I’d have a mostly stationary CT and also be using a domino/OF1400/sander in the same place so the plug it sounds ideal, but do you think the pros of the TS60 outweigh that con? I know some are firm on the need for a riving knife as well, and since I primarily work with hardwoods this is also a confusing point in my decision making. Would love to hear if the rest of the changes are worth it or not.

For the cord/plug-it part of it, I just used my TS55 and my Lamello Zeta P2 a couple of weekends ago on a project.  My Zeta doesn't have a plug-it conversion like CRG's does, because I'm not in a production/manufacturing setting.  I just plugged the Zeta in to the triple-tap that I have hanging off of my CT26 and swapped over the hose.

The worst part of the experience was getting to the CT because the garage is filled with non-garage stuff right now, but as a hobbyist it wasn't that big of a deal having a second cord with the hose.  For that matter, the hoses for the Vac-SYS and the crown stapler were more in the way than the extra cord was.
 
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