VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?

[squall_line]

BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.

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You could also demand some compensation.......  SE2 + Footpedal in exchange for the Missing SC1 , instead of walking away and returning the entire thing.

Festool doesn't necessarily allow their dealers to operate in that manner, though, based on SKU tracking and other restrictions.

 

[papester]

BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.

Same thing happened to me. Waiting on an update. Ordered on 12/16/2021. Missing the SE1.

 

[Darius]

It will ship end of this month. I’m in a same boat.

BIS website shows the SE2 in stock.

No idea if that is accurate.

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.

 

[grobkuschelig]

Just teasing you guys who are still waiting for their SE1…

 

[JINRO]

Smart move for $50 the 5 will help with more porous wood with 2 heads and if you ever start vacuum bagging it will help draw down the bag faster.  Depending on the size of the bag it can take a bit.

Just received Excel 5 and assembled it! I haven't received my SE1 or SE2 yet, but would this be the way I setup for them? I plugged in male plug I got separately. I haven't tightened them since I wasn't sure.

 

[DynaGlide]

That looks correct to me. That's a nice looking pump.

 

[afish]

just FYI those compressed air fittings are not really made for vacuum and most likely will leak.  You will probably never notice since I think that pump just runs all the time and has no automatic cut off as is.  The quick connects joe sells have been the best.  Zero leaks after about a month of use.  The ones he sells I believe are made for mold injection.  I tried finding a source and the only place I could find was more than he sells them for.  An automatic pump is handy when bagging.  I sometimes put something in the bag at the end of the day and leave it till the next morning.  Having a pump that cycles on and off automatically allows this.  He also sells everything you need to convert it to monitor and make it automatic if you ever decide too. 

 

[JINRO]

just FYI those compressed air fittings are not really made for vacuum and most likely will leak.  You will probably never notice since I think that pump just runs all the time and has no automatic cut off as is.  The quick connects joe sells have been the best.  Zero leaks after about a month of use.  The ones he sells I believe are made for mold injection.  I tried finding a source and the only place I could find was more than he sells them for.  An automatic pump is handy when bagging.  I sometimes put something in the bag at the end of the day and leave it till the next morning.  Having a pump that cycles on and off automatically allows this.  He also sells everything you need to convert it to monitor and make it automatic if you ever decide too.

Hi there, is this the one Joe sells? (https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Quick-Connect-Assembly.html) How do you connect this to Festool tube?

 

[Domino11]

Smart move for $50 the 5 will help with more porous wood with 2 heads and if you ever start vacuum bagging it will help draw down the bag faster.  Depending on the size of the bag it can take a bit.

Just received Excel 5 and assembled it! I haven't received my SE1 or SE2 yet, but would this be the way I setup for them? I plugged in male plug I got separately. I haven't tightened them since I wasn't sure.

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Nice. 

See....... Was pretty easy and straightforward,  right.  ;-)

 

[DynaGlide]

[member=73094]afish[/member] the fittings Festool uses are just regular old compressed air fittings 

 

[JINRO]

Nice. 

See....... Was pretty easy and straightforward,  right.  ;-)

lol yes, it was more simple than I thought. that's why I was hesitant to finish it by tightening. haha
QQ, do you have any leakage issue with new connector attached?

 

[MikeGE]

just FYI those compressed air fittings are not really made for vacuum and most likely will leak.  You will probably never notice since I think that pump just runs all the time and has no automatic cut off as is.  The quick connects joe sells have been the best.  Zero leaks after about a month of use.  The ones he sells I believe are made for mold injection.  I tried finding a source and the only place I could find was more than he sells them for.  An automatic pump is handy when bagging.  I sometimes put something in the bag at the end of the day and leave it till the next morning.  Having a pump that cycles on and off automatically allows this.  He also sells everything you need to convert it to monitor and make it automatic if you ever decide too.

I bought my fittings from a UK distributor, and they do leak.  When I turn off the pump, all vacuum is gone in a few seconds.  This doesn't seem to make much of a difference while the pump is running, but could cause problems if I lose power or suction and don't have those extra seconds to grab things before they fall.

 

[afish]

[member=77065]JINRO[/member]  Yes, that links to the correct fitting I was talking about.  My pump kicks on somewhere around 21" and of around 25" It is adjustable but having a pump that cycles will let you know if you have leaks. 

[member=65062]DynaGlide[/member] I cant really speak about the festool QC's since I dont use them. $50 for just the coupler was too pricy for me. Im not saying if they leak under vacuum or not. HOWEVER, I will also say if your pump doesnt cycle and just runs constantly like the Festool pump you will never know if they leak or not.  Small vacuum leaks are almost impossible to hear or find.  I know this since I had some leaks in the beginning and could not find them under vacuum.  I had to disconnect the vacuum pump and hook compressed air to the system.  As soon as I did I could hear the leak and double checked with soapy water just to be sure. My leak wasnt the QC it was two pvc joints.  "Most" compressed air QC are designed to seal under pressure so most will fail under vacuum.  Joe even states on his site that he has tested a bunch of different ones before finding the ones he sells. I also have had issues with Milton, and other HD/Lowes fittings.  My pump stays on 24/7 and it never cycles unless Im using it.  If there was a leak I would know.  If your pump doesnt cycle automatically you will never know if you have "small" leaks. 

As MikeGE just said a small leak isnt a big deal but if you have a bunch of QC and they all leak slightly you could be losing some clamping force.  A vacuum bag tends to leak even more too so its best practice to keep all leaks to a min or none at all if you can help it. 

 

[Cheese]

I bought my fittings from a UK distributor, and they do leak.  When I turn off the pump, all vacuum is gone in a few seconds.  This doesn't seem to make much of a difference while the pump is running, but could cause problems if I lose power or suction and don't have those extra seconds to grab things before they fall.

Hey Mike, that's exactly why I performed this test back in 2016...using the reservoir in the SE 1 will extend the amount of time you have by a factor of 10X. More than that if you are using both the SE 1 & SE 2.
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...c-sys-vacuum-decay-times/msg458918/#msg458918

 

[Domino11]

Nice. 

See....... Was pretty easy and straightforward,  right.  ;-)

lol yes, it was more simple than I thought. that's why I was hesitant to finish it by tightening. haha
QQ, do you have any leakage issue with new connector attached?

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Not at all.
It's an OEM Fit with the Festool, QC.
The only leaking comes from the wood.
If I use Alum. or plastic, it holds for quite a while.
With wood it will hold for about 60-120 sec. depending on the surface finish.

Definitely, use the base suction to increase your reserve as others have mentioned.


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[JINRO]

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Not at all.
It's an OEM Fit with the Festool, QC.
The only leaking comes from the wood.
If I use Alum. or plastic, it holds for quite a while.
With wood it will hold for about 60-120 sec. depending on the surface finish.

Definitely, use the base suction to increase your reserve as others have mentioned.


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I Just wanted to thank you for all of your help!  [thumbs up] This pump is so small, light and quite. Feels extremely well made! SE1 is out for delivery now, Can't wait to use it today!

Edit: just got it delivered

 

[JINRO]

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Not at all.
It's an OEM Fit with the Festool, QC.
The only leaking comes from the wood.
If I use Alum. or plastic, it holds for quite a while.
With wood it will hold for about 60-120 sec. depending on the surface finish.

Definitely, use the base suction to increase your reserve as others have mentioned.


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I Just wanted to thank you for all of your help!  [thumbs up] This pump is so small, light and quite. Feels extremely well made! SE1 is out for delivery now, Can't wait to use it today!

Edit: just got it delivered

 

[DSP1578]

I also want to thank the contributors to this thread.  My most recent Festool purchase was the Kapex several months ago (which I love), and I thought my next one would be the Domino. I saw the Vac Sys at my local Woodcraft years ago and always thought that was nice, but out of my price range for now. Once I caught wind that it was being discontinued and read the many comments from people who have the system, I found a new sense of urgency to get one. I originally ordered the full system from LeeValley, but received a cancellation order notice. I ended up getting the Excel 5 from Veneer Supplies after reading the advice on this thread. I also ordered the SE 1 from Woodcraft. The SE 1 and Excel 5 both arrived today, within 3 days of placing my order. The only thing I'm waiting on now is the SE2, which I ordered from BIS. I can't wait to set everything up!

 

[Cheese]

The SE 1 and Excel 5 both arrived today, within 3 days of placing my order. The only thing I'm waiting on now is the SE2, which I ordered from BIS. I can't wait to set everything up!

You can fire up the Excel 5 & SE 1 and play with them until the SE 2 arrives.  [smile]

 

[JINRO]

I ended up getting the Excel 5 from Veneer Supplies after reading the advice on this thread. I also ordered the SE 1 from Woodcraft. The SE 1 and Excel 5 both arrived today, within 3 days of placing my order. The only thing I'm waiting on now is the SE2, which I ordered from BIS.

That's exactly how I ordered my SE1, SE2 and Excel5 lol SE2 is arriving from BIS tomorrow Enjoy my friend! I just test SE1 with Excel5 and it blew my mind~~~