Woodpecker's Parallel Guide System One Time Tool

[justaguy]

[member=34727]Zeusman[/member] [member=4284]rmh[/member]

This is great news!! As always you have stood by your product and taken care of your customers.

Just one question... Will the fix be annondized woodpecker red, or left plain like the prototype  [poke]  [big grin]

Ken

I sure hope it's anodized and includes longer screws. Current ones barely catch the screw thread....

What he said above [wink]

 

[Zeusman]

They will not be anodized. Because of our current backlog with the anodizer it would take weeks for us to even schedule to have them done. As for the screws....because of the new design of the bracket fixture there is no void between the two parts so there is plenty of thread engagement. For the foam , there just isn't enough real estate there do a cut out.

 

[TOOLTOWN]

[member=34727]Zeusman[/member] 

[sad]  I vote to wait for the anodizing!!

 

[Peter_C]

[member=34727]Zeusman[/member] 

[sad]  I vote to wait for the anodizing!!

With a decent amount of use, that will be the most scratched up part of the hardware. Silver does hold a benefit there. *shrugs*

 

[lunchman]

I would think a little "foam surgery" with an Exacto knife would do the job.

Unfortunately it won't work. There is not enough room on either side.

Woodpeckers, please let us know what the solution for the foam insert will be.

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If the new track connectors fit into the t-tracks, no need for foam surgery. Just store them in the t-tracks. Of course, that depends on the size, but since both tracks (t and Festool) use the oval nuts my bet is they'll slip into the t-tracks. Woodpeckers, please let us know your thoughts on this.

 

[Cheese]

I vote to wait for the anodizing!!

The anodization used is decorative and not hard-coat, as such, it is as vulnerable to scratching as the bare aluminum itself. Nothing would be gained if these items were red anodized and it could take an additional ?? weeks for that to happen.

My position, is to applaud Woodpeckers for finding a robust, viable solution to the problem, and then attempting to get the redesigned pieces into the rail owners hands as soon as possible so that we are able to use the equipment we purchased.

Besides, the new rail connectors for the most part will be hidden under the Woodpeckers attachment arm and will blend in with the Festool rail.

[member=34727]Zeusman[/member]
That's a very nice, elegant solution you came up with... [thumbs up]

 

[Birdhunter]

The idea of storing the rail connectors in the MFT rail is excellent. That way, no recalibration is necessary.

 

[Peter_C]

If the new track connectors fit into the t-tracks, no need for foam surgery. Just store them in the t-tracks. Of course, that depends on the size, but since both tracks (t and Festool) use the oval nuts my bet is they'll slip into the t-tracks. Woodpeckers, please let us know your thoughts on this.

My thought is since I own and consistently use two tracks, one long and one short, they would ALWAYS be in the wrong track. In other words my finish cuts would be with the short track and my first cuts would be with the long track.

The parts all need to fit in the systainer, as that is what I bought and paid for. Everything fitting in the systainer was one of the biggest selling points for me over the Festool parallel guide system.

 

[tjbnwi]

If the new track connectors fit into the t-tracks, no need for foam surgery. Just store them in the t-tracks. Of course, that depends on the size, but since both tracks (t and Festool) use the oval nuts my bet is they'll slip into the t-tracks. Woodpeckers, please let us know your thoughts on this.

My thought is since I own and consistently use two tracks, one long and one short, they would ALWAYS be in the wrong track. In other words my finish cuts would be with the short track and my first cuts would be with the long track.

The parts all need to fit in the systainer, as that is what I bought and paid for. Everything fitting in the systainer was one of the biggest selling points for me over the Festool parallel guide system.

I believe the point is to store the new connector in the Woodpecker tracks that make up the PGS system (not the Festool track). That will keep all the pieces together in the Systainer.

Tom

 

[Peter_C]

I believe the point is to store the new connector in the Woodpecker tracks that make up the PGS system (not the Festool track). That will keep all the pieces together in the Systainer.

Tom

Got it, thanks, I missed reading the word "t-track"  [tongue]

Just walked out into the garage, used one of my Festool track joiners and attempted to insert one of them into the Woodpeckers t-track. No go! The assumption is going to be that the pieces are roughly the same size, since they both slide into the Festool track.

 

[jimbo51]

It looks like Woodpecker has developed a good fix. It does raise a question of why the Festool rails would vary in that particular dimension. However, I just checked 5 rails that were purchased from 1 to 7 years ago. The bracket did not fit flush in any of them. Was it intended to sit flush or just slightly proud?

In regard to the foam, I am sure that someone will be able to figure out how to fit the new pieces in the sustainer. Just making a cut out in the lid foam may be sufficient.

In regard to anodizing, the new pieces are basically just nuts. I do not need my nuts to be red and shiny.

 

[tjbnwi]

I checked the brackets on the 19 rails I own. The bracket does not fit flush to the top of the rail on any of them. I do not believe is is designed to fit flush. I looked at the majority of them holding the bracket to the rail, the tapered lug purchase was at least 75% of the aluminum thickness. I'll have more time to look at them tomorrow, I believe the original retainers are the cause of the problems.

Tom

 

[Monju123]

Monju, I think you will need to detail for us your scale esp all ratings that fall between "mostly" and "wildly"

[emoji41]

Lets go with 8.5. I find it superior to the Festool setup although I haven't done narrow cuts yet. It is so much easier to attach that I find myself using them when I would have measured a mark and taken my chances rather than set up the Festools. Also, using them in a cramped shop, the ability to have only the length I need rather than the full length of the Festool makes it easier to walk around my cutting table without the parallel guides hanging over the table.

 

[Gwerner]

I checked the brackets on the 19 rails I own.

19 rails???  [eek]

 

[fritter63]

Glad to hear this, because 1/16" is not tolerable for me, and in guitar building that is like the Grand Canyon!

 

[tjbnwi]

I checked the brackets on the 19 rails I own.

19 rails???  [eek]

8 of them are for my MFT-3's, 4 came with saws, need the long ones for sheet goods.

Tom

 

[Linbro]

" I do not need my nuts to be red and shiny."

Well, none of us do.

 

[barnumb]

If the new track connectors fit into the t-tracks, no need for foam surgery. Just store them in the t-tracks. Of course, that depends on the size, but since both tracks (t and Festool) use the oval nuts my bet is they'll slip into the t-tracks. Woodpeckers, please let us know your thoughts on this.

My thought is since I own and consistently use two tracks, one long and one short, they would ALWAYS be in the wrong track. In other words my finish cuts would be with the short track and my first cuts would be with the long track.

The parts all need to fit in the systainer, as that is what I bought and paid for. Everything fitting in the systainer was one of the biggest selling points for me over the Festool parallel guide system.

I believe the point is to store the new connector in the Woodpecker tracks that make up the PGS system (not the Festool track). That will keep all the pieces together in the Systainer.

Tom

I think they will fit, lay them in and close the lid.

 

[Birdhunter]

It's obvious from the photos of the new connector what the two innermost threaded holes are for. The two outermost holes look like they have something screwed in. I wonder if that might be for snugging the connector into a he rail slot. 

 

[tjbnwi]

I believe the point is to store the new connector in the Woodpecker tracks that make up the PGS system (not the Festool track). That will keep all the pieces together in the Systainer.

Tom

Got it, thanks, I missed reading the word "t-track"  [tongue]

Just walked out into the garage, used one of my Festool track joiners and attempted to insert one of them into the Woodpeckers t-track. No go! The assumption is going to be that the pieces are roughly the same size, since they both slide into the Festool track.

In the photos from Zeusman, it appears as if the new connectors are just longer track connectors with a slightly shallower shoulder. If this is the case they will fit in the PGS track. Time will tell.....

Tom