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Thanks for the translation Tim. [big grin]
Your Mission if You Choose:
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Peter, you definetly need to get rid of that piler tendency.
When doing your set up the location of the windows / doors can be very handy for long stock on a miter saw. I was recently set up in a room and placed the Kapex strategically so that I could push long trim pieces out a window for the needed space.
Just make sure the window is actually open [eek]
Seth
When doing your set up the location of the windows / doors can be very handy for long stock on a miter saw. I was recently set up in a room and placed the Kapex strategically so that I could push long trim pieces out a window for the needed space.
Just make sure the window is actually open [eek]
Seth
Tinker said:
Porch. [thumbs up]
Seth
i remember seeing a u tube vid of a workshop where there was a chop saw station , there was 4 foot inside the shop of left hand support and a 12" plastic sewer pipe sticking out of the shed for the rest of the material.
the shed was against a wall so the pipe was along the wall and covered in trees.
i thought it was a great job as they could cut long lengths without all the space dedicated to a full length chop saw station. and they could feed it from out side if they wanted to
the shed was against a wall so the pipe was along the wall and covered in trees.
i thought it was a great job as they could cut long lengths without all the space dedicated to a full length chop saw station. and they could feed it from out side if they wanted to
Alan m said:
Very cool idea! It could even be removable if not against a wall.
Seth
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Tim R, thanks for adding fascinating commentary to my post about my various shops. My original post needed to be long, but it is hardly a secret I do not write short posts.
I should add that in my side businesses and movie studio career, I was as careful hiring staff as a good producer is casting acting talent. One of my heroes growing up was the banquet head waiter, Mr. Marcello, of the Waldorf-Astoria hotel. He told me he only hired banquet housemen he believed could become a captain within 5 years. If a banquet expanded, his waiters could become captains and the housemen could be assistant waiters. I have always hired people I expected to replace me in less than 5 years. All of my side business were set up and staffed in anticipation eventually the employees would buy me out. I still own a third of the huge metal fabricating plant in Van Nuys 36 years after buying my first building there. In 1996 my cabinet shop employees had saved their money so well they could afford to buy that building, but eventually sold it as they retired. By the time I opened my Burbank cabinet shop in 2010 none of my Pasadena folks were still working.
My policy has always been to be fair to daily hires. Some of those people do not want full-time jobs. Some might not have legal work papers. One of those men, Javier Martinez, started working for me several days a month in 2005. He was born in Los Angeles and had been laid-off. He told me he was doing okay finding daily work. He was one of the first I asked about joining my Burbank cabinet shop, but he replied that his career was welding. So since 2007 he has been a full-time welder at the metal shop.
Maybe the bigger the fork lift the more fun, but in my experience the most fun are the riding 3 wheel fork lifts, like my Toyota. They can turn centered on the mast, so they do not need overly wide aisles. Mine uses less than USA$1.50 of electricity a month. Compare that to buying propane! The fire insurance company loves that I am not storing tanks of propane, including one of the fork lift.
I should point out that at one time or another all of my cabinet makers were active members of IATSE Local 40, Prop and Set Builders. All of us have gone through The movie/TV industry Safety Passport classes every 2 years, including practical examination of our ability to safely use fork lifts and walk behind powered tugs/pallet jacks. The fact is we all look forward to being closest to the fork lift when the lumber truck pulls up. In my own experience the only electric vehicle more fun that the 3 wheel fork lifts are Chapman Side-Winder movie/TV camera crab dolly/cranes. During lunch breaks at the studio dolly/crane grips would hold races with the Side-Winders. Ralph Chapman, founder of that rental company, would frequently referee those races. There were never any reports of a Side-Winder being damaged during a race, but to reduce temptation, I deliberately only bought a single fork lift.
I should add that in my side businesses and movie studio career, I was as careful hiring staff as a good producer is casting acting talent. One of my heroes growing up was the banquet head waiter, Mr. Marcello, of the Waldorf-Astoria hotel. He told me he only hired banquet housemen he believed could become a captain within 5 years. If a banquet expanded, his waiters could become captains and the housemen could be assistant waiters. I have always hired people I expected to replace me in less than 5 years. All of my side business were set up and staffed in anticipation eventually the employees would buy me out. I still own a third of the huge metal fabricating plant in Van Nuys 36 years after buying my first building there. In 1996 my cabinet shop employees had saved their money so well they could afford to buy that building, but eventually sold it as they retired. By the time I opened my Burbank cabinet shop in 2010 none of my Pasadena folks were still working.
My policy has always been to be fair to daily hires. Some of those people do not want full-time jobs. Some might not have legal work papers. One of those men, Javier Martinez, started working for me several days a month in 2005. He was born in Los Angeles and had been laid-off. He told me he was doing okay finding daily work. He was one of the first I asked about joining my Burbank cabinet shop, but he replied that his career was welding. So since 2007 he has been a full-time welder at the metal shop.
Maybe the bigger the fork lift the more fun, but in my experience the most fun are the riding 3 wheel fork lifts, like my Toyota. They can turn centered on the mast, so they do not need overly wide aisles. Mine uses less than USA$1.50 of electricity a month. Compare that to buying propane! The fire insurance company loves that I am not storing tanks of propane, including one of the fork lift.
I should point out that at one time or another all of my cabinet makers were active members of IATSE Local 40, Prop and Set Builders. All of us have gone through The movie/TV industry Safety Passport classes every 2 years, including practical examination of our ability to safely use fork lifts and walk behind powered tugs/pallet jacks. The fact is we all look forward to being closest to the fork lift when the lumber truck pulls up. In my own experience the only electric vehicle more fun that the 3 wheel fork lifts are Chapman Side-Winder movie/TV camera crab dolly/cranes. During lunch breaks at the studio dolly/crane grips would hold races with the Side-Winders. Ralph Chapman, founder of that rental company, would frequently referee those races. There were never any reports of a Side-Winder being damaged during a race, but to reduce temptation, I deliberately only bought a single fork lift.
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Carroll, I never cease to be educated by your postings. Tim, that was a great distillation of Carroll's dissertation. Well done to both!
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SRSemenza said:
You could also plan to have the opening(s) at that magic number - 900 mm off the floor for infeed/outfeed.
Tom
Tom Bellemare said:
Tom,
Having a door 900 mm off the floor would make things hard to roll into the shop. [poke] (I know what you meant.) There is a window lower than the height of the MFT.
Will be measuring and doing a drawing over the weekend. You will see why my shop is NOT set up the best, but in the videos we will explore mine and also better situations.
Peter
Just an update. I had a couple of hours yesterday and ended up framing the outline of the "shop". Need to fill i n the remainder of the walls. I got a lead for a job that will require some shop space, so all of a sudden I need to rotate a 10 x 12 x 8 ft cube inside my space. I really don't want to pull all those screws, so after work tomorrow I am going to have to sit and plot.
Peter
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Hey Peter,
Your mission sounds like a fun one, though I agree with the other posters that building a prototype is not very efficient. It is also a really small space. If I was going to try to do what you are doing, I would build something along the lines of Ron Paulk's Ultimate mobile workshop. I would build all fixtures/cabinets in a modular fashion with French cleats so you could expand into a larger space without much disassembly required. I wouldn't even consider breaking down full sheets inside, instead use your panel saw to break down pieces to workable sizes. I would build a UWB out of marine plywood and figure out a way to store it outside(front porch) so you could expand your space weather permitting without having to clear off and move any interior workbenches. I think having as many duplicate tools as possible so you are not constantly having to unload everything from your truck is also going to be a real sanity saver. I know that's something that really drives me nuts.
I would also keep your current shop if possible. You can easily get around the mounting things to the wall problem by cutting blocking to fit between the metal flanges on the studs and screwing OSB to it, then you can mount anything you want. Also think about keeping your prototype shop as a spray booth once you have your home shop all figured out. Having a home workshop is really nice, but having space for traditional woodworking machines can really make a difference in your productivity and ability to take on different projects.
Just my $0.02.. Good luck and keep us posted.
Your mission sounds like a fun one, though I agree with the other posters that building a prototype is not very efficient. It is also a really small space. If I was going to try to do what you are doing, I would build something along the lines of Ron Paulk's Ultimate mobile workshop. I would build all fixtures/cabinets in a modular fashion with French cleats so you could expand into a larger space without much disassembly required. I wouldn't even consider breaking down full sheets inside, instead use your panel saw to break down pieces to workable sizes. I would build a UWB out of marine plywood and figure out a way to store it outside(front porch) so you could expand your space weather permitting without having to clear off and move any interior workbenches. I think having as many duplicate tools as possible so you are not constantly having to unload everything from your truck is also going to be a real sanity saver. I know that's something that really drives me nuts.
I would also keep your current shop if possible. You can easily get around the mounting things to the wall problem by cutting blocking to fit between the metal flanges on the studs and screwing OSB to it, then you can mount anything you want. Also think about keeping your prototype shop as a spray booth once you have your home shop all figured out. Having a home workshop is really nice, but having space for traditional woodworking machines can really make a difference in your productivity and ability to take on different projects.
Just my $0.02.. Good luck and keep us posted.
Despite all the ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL ADVICE [thumbs up] [thumbs up] about not building a prototype shop.... it lives.
Spent a good part of this rainy day playing with a Ti-15 and loved it. I suffer from tendinitis in my wrists from playing too many 4 hour days of tennis as a kid, and the after using the Ti-15 versus either my T15-3 or C12 or TDK-12 I can tell the difference. Other than getting the screw to bite I didn't need to exert any real pressure. I've got another project coming up for the Ti-15 that I am looking forward to. Videos to come.
Stay tuned, or of course tune out! [scared]
Peter
Spent a good part of this rainy day playing with a Ti-15 and loved it. I suffer from tendinitis in my wrists from playing too many 4 hour days of tennis as a kid, and the after using the Ti-15 versus either my T15-3 or C12 or TDK-12 I can tell the difference. Other than getting the screw to bite I didn't need to exert any real pressure. I've got another project coming up for the Ti-15 that I am looking forward to. Videos to come.
Stay tuned, or of course tune out! [scared]
Peter
cant wait peter.
that is why i love impacts so much.
the ease at which you drive screws. you dont need to push as hard as you can to drive the screw.
on several ocasions i have turned my impact upside down and used my baby finget to triger it. its usually up high in really aqward spaces.
i sold a colegue on the impact way of working lately. i reached up to the ceiling joist barely and drive a 4 " screw with my baby finger . he never looked back
that is why i love impacts so much.
the ease at which you drive screws. you dont need to push as hard as you can to drive the screw.
on several ocasions i have turned my impact upside down and used my baby finget to triger it. its usually up high in really aqward spaces.
i sold a colegue on the impact way of working lately. i reached up to the ceiling joist barely and drive a 4 " screw with my baby finger . he never looked back
My hope - and goal - is that some of the potentially wacky (different) things I do (inspired by so much stuff posted here by you guys) will plant seeds in the minds of others here who can expand and make it their own.. The delay has allowed me to get more inspired (wacky). I have given hints in other posts, hmmm...
Peter
PS: Your comments here have made me realize that my existing shop space to be needs a modification. That will be covered in the video. Safety glasses will be involved.
Peter
PS: Your comments here have made me realize that my existing shop space to be needs a modification. That will be covered in the video. Safety glasses will be involved.
I think you saw intense and adrenaline. There is more....
Thanks for being polite!
Peter
Thanks for being polite!
Peter
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