Face frame units

[joiner1970]

[member=1873]windmill man[/member] has it nailed, but if you ever find yourself using "real" wood that has some movement, these little things are awesome and ship to the UK at a reasonable cost...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001BLZ692?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A4VIKYSURVPVW

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Cheers Garry, I've seen those things , very handy

 

[joiner1970]

That's the fruiting body of dry rot and thirty minuites should be fine
[thumbs up]

John,

Just glued one up using your method. Much better , almost square straight away and if it is a touch out its easy to knock it square with less glue on the panel.

 

[windmill man]

I learn from making cock ups  [big grin] Chris  , so I know a lot now  [embarassed]

 

[joiner1970]

Lol yeah I know what you mean.

 

[tom46]

Oh right i see.

I'm based just outside London and only used wickes or builder depot just not sure if the quality is the same.

Ohhh no lol

The diy sheds sell furry rubbish. If you want anything decent look out for medite MDF.

Where abouts are you as I'm just outside London too. I might be able to recommend a supplier

I've have heard that before and never really looked into it. Maybe i'll start pricing up some other suppliers as i know of a big bookcase job i have coming up soon.  I've tried timbmet before but jheez they're not cheap. Have also used medite fire retard board and found that to be better.
I'm based in Essex.

 

[GarryMartin]

Medite MDF is great stuff. I use Medite Premium MR V313 pretty much exclusively and get it from Arnold Laver, but not sure they cover the whole of the country although they do have an "online" presence...

http://www.laveronline.co.uk/sheet-materials-c6/mdf-c169/premium-mr-v313-mdf-c171

If you are painting MDF, a lot of the guys on Twitter are raving about Unilin FibroPrime Air (lightweight MDF), FibroPaint (standard MDF), and HydroPaint (moisture-resistant MDF) all of which have a high-quality paint grade film on both sides. I've not tried them personally, but I have a lot of respect for the opinion of the guys that are talking about them.

 

[joiner1970]

I probably paid a bit more for my medite those laver prices are good. Didn't look at delivery cost though . I paid about £27 a sheet for 18mm.

 

[GarryMartin]

I probably paid a bit more for my medite those laver prices are good. Didn't look at delivery cost though . I paid about £27 a sheet for 18mm.

I paid less than the online prices, but not *much* less, and delivery is a flat £10 from the depot 15 miles away.

 

[jimbouk]

Medite MDF is great stuff. I use Medite Premium MR V313 pretty much exclusively and get it from Arnold Laver, but not sure they cover the whole of the country although they do have an "online" presence...

http://www.laveronline.co.uk/sheet-materials-c6/mdf-c169/premium-mr-v313-mdf-c171

If you are painting MDF, a lot of the guys on Twitter are raving about Unilin FibroPrime Air (lightweight MDF), FibroPaint (standard MDF), and HydroPaint (moisture-resistant MDF) all of which have a high-quality paint grade film on both sides. I've not tried them personally, but I have a lot of respect for the opinion of the guys that are talking about them.

Thanks Garry that looks interesting.  Seen stuff like this in the past and been unimpressed Can you direct me to the reviews you saw on it?

Also still have to deal with the machined edge....always hoping for a new way or improvement! 

 

[jonny round boy]

Also still have to deal with the machined edge....always hoping for a new way or improvement! 

How about this stuff then?

 

[GarryMartin]

Can you direct me to the reviews you saw on it?

They're not reviews per se, they're Twitter conversations with some of the people I follow. But they're people that do some fantastic work. Take a look at http://sbtdesign.co.uk/ and http://madebygregcox.co.uk/ - both Steve and Greg have used it and raved about it. They're on Twitter at @SBT_Design and @MadeByGregCox.

Also still have to deal with the machined edge....always hoping for a new way or improvement! 

How about this stuff then?

I've used the paintable edging tape from them and it's really good, but I'm guessing [member=17934]jimbouk[/member] meant a non-flat machined surface. I've found the best way to deal with machined edges is to prime them after the final run through the router table to raise the fibres, allow them to dry, and then run them through the table again at the same setting. You can't beat Zinsser BIN on machined edges, but I've also had good success with Johnstones MDF Primer too.

But having said all that, *starting* with a good quality MDF that machines well is the best way to get to a good finish in the end.

 

[joiner1970]

Also still have to deal with the machined edge....always hoping for a new way or improvement! 

How about this stuff then?

Ive had that on a couple of jobs. I wasn't that impressed. In places it was coming off but that could have been down to the supplier.

 

[GarryMartin]

Ive had that on a couple of jobs. I wasn't that impressed. In places it was coming off but that could have been down to the supplier.

The tape from edgeband.co.uk is very high quality and I've neither seen any problems myself or heard of any problems from anyone else using it, and collectively, they've applied hundreds of metres of the stuff.

 

[joiner1970]

Ive had that on a couple of jobs. I wasn't that impressed. In places it was coming off but that could have been down to the supplier.

The tape from edgeband.co.uk is very high quality and I've neither seen any problems myself or heard of any problems from anyone else using it, and collectively, they've applied hundreds of metres of the stuff.

Yeah this was from Cutwrights . don't get me wrong it was OK but on this particular job it was probably another £300 just to have the edging tape. I used  it just the once but thought for the extra cost it wasn't worth it.

 

[GarryMartin]

Wow. I pop it on with a cheap dry iron and use the Fastcap tools to trim it and break the edges...

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[joiner1970]

Finished clamping up the last doors tonight tomorrow I'm picking up all the hardwood bits and some panel bead to trim the door panels. I'm probably going to use a bearing guided trimmer to run round all the doors using a template just to make sure they're dead square and exactly the same size. This will give the a nice edge too ready for a quick sand.

 

[Andy UK]

Ive had that on a couple of jobs. I wasn't that impressed. In places it was coming off but that could have been down to the supplier.

The tape from edgeband.co.uk is very high quality and I've neither seen any problems myself or heard of any problems from anyone else using it, and collectively, they've applied hundreds of metres of the stuff.

I've used the 22mm and 40mm pre-glued tape from them and it's been good with no problems, reasonable prices too.

 

[joiner1970]

Ive had that on a couple of jobs. I wasn't that impressed. In places it was coming off but that could have been down to the supplier.

The tape from edgeband.co.uk is very high quality and I've neither seen any problems myself or heard of any problems from anyone else using it, and collectively, they've applied hundreds of metres of the stuff.

I've used the 22mm and 40mm pre-glued tape from them and it's been good with no problems, reasonable prices too.

Mine was from Cutwrights it was fitted by them on a load MDF I ordered. I didn't buy rolls of it.

I'm sure its fine if its done right

 

[tom46]

Wow. I pop it on with a cheap dry iron and use the Fastcap tools to trim it and break the edges...

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Always wanted to try the iron on edging but can't see it being very useful as i put a small round on all self edges. So i'm guessing this won't be very successful  [blink]

 

[GarryMartin]

Always wanted to try the iron on edging but can't see it being very useful as i put a small round on all self edges. So i'm guessing this won't be very successful  [blink]

Don't see why you couldn't give it a small round over once you'd applied it to the edge. The tape is 0.4mm thick.

Give edgeband.co.uk a call and ask them to send you a sample.