Festool CMS discontinued

[Cheese]

I didn’t know that the full system CMS was never available in some countries, this is a bit strange as the CMS is a modular system, offering lots of possibilities in a compact set up, if you invest in the accessories but, if you are not offered the accessories to buy, what is the point? [scratch chin]

Ya, we were denied the table saw insert and the jig saw insert. The jig saw insert has some interest for me although I've never tried one out. [sad]

 

[sancho57]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member]

Its pretty kewl. I use mine mainly for jig and template making

 

[DeformedTree]

I didn’t know that the full system CMS was never available in some countries, this is a bit strange as the CMS is a modular system, offering lots of possibilities in a compact set up, if you invest in the accessories but, if you are not offered the accessories to buy, what is the point? [scratch chin]

It’s obvious that European countries get the products when first released, but surely this could be amended so that the products are available globally on release.
The voltage differences have been around long enough now, for companies to know what is required from a legal and safety point of view. So they could get everything in place before a product is launched. That way, everything is available, and can be offered to anybody with dealer outlets, regardless of their location?

Only module the US got was the router, and even with that the OF2200 was not allowed to be used with it.  I think, but very well could be wrong, all the add on bits (outfeeds tables, etc) were available.  From reading articles from the past, it sounds like they did originally intend to bring things like the saw modules to N.A. but that clearly never panned out.  Folks brought other parts in from other parts of the world.

The CMS was a nifty thing, how well it sold none of us will ever know.  I would assume Festool kept it going in the US in it's limited form just so they had a router table solution to offer customers even if they couldn't get the other modules.  The saw stop Festool saw doesn't look like it will be in N.A (or anywhere really) anytime soon.  Since festool doesn't sell Table saws here now, there isn't a real need to make it happen fast since it's not like there is a gap in product offerings.  Other places have the new Saws so they are good.

CMS may have been a good idea that was just too hard to really implement well globally due to different safety rules, voltages and such.  I don't know if anything has changed in the EU that would trigger a re-design.  Having to tailor tools to each country region is expensive and a pain for a company, having to tailor multiple levels of tools to work (tool + CMS) becomes much more of a pain and expense.   

Festool USA website has been running really poorly, the CMS stuff doesn't fully load.  As has been mentioned, pretty obvious it will be discontinued at some point. 

 

[Jiggy Joiner]

I honestly do feel for you chaps, it must be  very frustrating. If it is down to laws and safety, it makes me wonder what will happen if/when the UK leaves Europe?

 

[DeformedTree]

I honestly do feel for you chaps, it must be  very frustrating. If it is down to laws and safety, it makes me wonder what will happen if/when the UK leaves Europe?

I doubt there would be too much sudden change other than pricing maybe.  All the network/infrastructure/people are there. I wouldn't worry about it until things happen.  It's not like anyone is going to change all your codes/safety regs that day.  I'm no expert on the UK connections to the EU but I understand even as is the UK has never been all in on everything.  Festool supports 2 voltages of tools, the BS plug today which is different from other EU locations, no reason that would suddenly stop. Prices/Taxes are where I'd expect all change to revolve around, and that's not going to be unique to Festool products.

Also remember due to it's size, the US is a bit of a walled garden.  Generally folks never buy anything from a different country if they live here, it's often not an option, though the last few years sites like Amazon have started allowing some international sales. Most non-USA retailers will ship to almost anyplace, except the US, but like Amazon this has started to change some in recent times.  We tend to end up with a US division of a company or a specific importer.  Thus what you can get has a filter on it.  UK isn't going to suddenly become an island... [wink]

Still, I wouldn't think about it too much until things actually happen.

 

[Jiggy Joiner]

Oh I’m not worried or bothered about it either way, I do hope we get nearer to being an island again though. 

 

[Coen]

I didn’t know that the full system CMS was never available in some countries, this is a bit strange as the CMS is a modular system, offering lots of possibilities in a compact set up, if you invest in the accessories but, if you are not offered the accessories to buy, what is the point? [scratch chin]

Ya, we were denied the table saw insert and the jig saw insert. The jig saw insert has some interest for me although I've never tried one out. [sad]

You can clamp the jigsaw under the router insert  [tongue]

 

[sancho57]

[member=68063]DeformedTree[/member]

you can get them. You see them for sale occasionally in the classifieds.

Theres a guy selling the complete pkg right now. CMS, TS75, TS 75 module, fence side table et etc

Just noticed another guy selling the TS75 module in the classifieds