Glue Bottles - What you Love or Hate

[Michael Kellough]

Corner Weld (by Framica) was formulated for miters, which is essentially end grain to end grain. But with an open time of one minute or less, not useful for most woodwork.

Framers, however, apply glue to one surface, put the two pieces in an underpinner and step on the pedal. Done. 10 minutes later the frame can be loaded with glass, art and backer. You could not do that with any of the Titebond products.

Fast forward to 0:50 to see how quickly miters are joined with an underpinner. Underpinned joints need glue though. Some Cinese imported picture frames try to get by with the V-nails only. It is not really acceptable. The underpinner I had was entirely manual, with the foot pedal providing all the pressure.

With your manual underpinner did the device have a stronger overarm clamp than is shown on this rig? Looks ok for a pneumatic pinner but maybe not for withstanding pressure for a longer time.

 

[Packard]

With your manual underpinner did the device have a stronger overarm clamp than is shown on this rig? Looks ok for a pneumatic pinner but maybe not for withstanding pressure for a longer time.

It was adequate for clamping. The mouldings never lifted while driving the v-nails.

I bought it used from a framer going out of business. It was not a premium machine. But much faster than cross nailing the corners, which I used to do.

By the way, if anyone wants to buy a used mat cutter, most framers retired theirs when they leased their CNC automatic mat cutter, but held onto it “just in case”. But the automatic cutters proved to be very reliable, and I do believe that many framers have forgotten how to use their manual machines.

Mailing out inquiries to all the area framers will likely get you offers on that and other framing equipment.

Note: My spell checker changed my correctly spelled “area framers” to “Arab framers”. A.I. spellers should not quit their day jobs.

 

[Mini Me]

Someone must like it, otherwise, the asking prices wouldn't be that high. I always prefer a simple set-up, and that means I just want to open a glue bottle and use it. I don't want something that adds extra work like a glue dish or a wedge to open the nozzle cap.

One exception is the OBG, which needs to be kept warm during its use.

As for epoxy glue, which is expensive, it has its place in woodworking, but I haven't known any furniture maker -- full-time or amateur -- in my neck of wood who uses it as their go-to glue. It's messy and hard to clean up like PVA or hide glue.

I like it but not enough to pay $70 for it. In the video she bangs on about not contaminating the glue with your fingers and a finger is my primary application tool! YouTube advice at its best!

 

[ChuckS]

Her finger contamination remark is just as funny as the advice from AI :

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+finger+contamination+an+issue+for+wood+glue%3F&oq=is+finger+contamination+an+issue+for+wood+glue%3F&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRifBdIBCTE5MTQ2ajBqNKgCAbACAQ&client=ms-android-bell-ca-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#lfId=ChxjMe

So, as long as you don't apply glue with your fingers, there's no worry about glue traces.

 

[luvmytoolz]

Yeah but the real danger is the fact that wood glue can stain skin! Oh no!

Am I the weird one then that after a day of gluing stuff up I get a high degree of satisfaction as I peel the dried glue off my fingers?

 

[onocoffee]

Yeah but the real danger is the fact that wood glue can stain skin! Oh no!

Am I the weird one then that after a day of gluing stuff up I get a high degree of satisfaction as I peel the dried glue off my fingers?

I don't know if I would like that. I keep a wet towel at the ready to wipe up squeeze out and my fingers. Stuff coating my fingers gives me the heebie-jeebies. I think it comes from my days working in kitchens making dough. That sensation of the dough sticking to my hands and caking all over them - UGH!!!

 

[derekcohen]

Coming in a little late here.

I have one similar to this Rockler set ...

Buy Rockler Glue Applicator Set by ROCKLER online - Carbatec

Simple fittings to fit 473ml or 946ml Titebond glue bottles. Easy to clean surfaces for wet and dried glues.

www.carbatec.com.au

The spreader is nonsense, but the bottle is great as it is thin-walled and easy to squeeze plus works with gravity (depending on the viscosity of the glue). The important part is the little cap for the bottle, which is silicon. That makes it easy to clean, and the viability of a glue bottle actually comes down to this - blocked outlets (as glue dries) are the main issue with Titebond bottles.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[ChuckS]

Paul Sellers uses fingers like some of you guys. He even smears glue everywhere with some shavings!

But why? Applying glue a well-planned activity, and shouldn't you have time to get whatever glue spreader you own other than your fingers?

 

[luvmytoolz]

Paul Sellers uses fingers like some of you guys. He even smears glue everywhere with some shavings!

But why? Applying glue a well-planned activity, and shouldn't you have time to get whatever glue spreader you own other than your fingers?

I never use my fingers to spread glue, depending on the project I'll use a brush, silicon scraper, or my 3" roller/feeder glue applicator as pictured.

I do somehow always get glue over my hands and whatever t-shirt I happen to be wearing though no matter how neat I'm trying to be.

 

[hdv]

For large areas I like to use a plastic glue trowel to spread glue. For domino holes a metal painters spatula (sometimes a small brush). For small areas either my fingers, or a small silicone roller are used to spread the glue. Just like onocoffe I always make sure to have a damp cloth near when applying glue.

 

[Mini Me]

Coming in a little late here.

I have one similar to this Rockler set ...

Buy Rockler Glue Applicator Set by ROCKLER online - Carbatec

Simple fittings to fit 473ml or 946ml Titebond glue bottles. Easy to clean surfaces for wet and dried glues.

www.carbatec.com.au

The spreader is nonsense, but the bottle is great as it is thin-walled and easy to squeeze plus works with gravity (depending on the viscosity of the glue). The important part is the little cap for the bottle, which is silicon. That makes it easy to clean, and the viability of a glue bottle actually comes down to this - blocked outlets (as glue dries) are the main issue with Titebond bottles.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Sorry Derek, $54 for a glue bottle is the Australia tax at work! To expand on that I was once accused of selling Clearvues too cheaply by a retailer because it forced them to lower their prices and he wanted me to do the importation and sell them to him so he could mark them up and make some more money. That company went bust and for me it was karma.

 

[derekcohen]

Note that I said I had one similar, not the one in the link. I think it was from AliExpress, which is likely the source for the Carbatec and Rockler stock. A fraction of that price. I agree $54 is robbery. The point of my post was to comment on the silicon cap.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Michael Kellough]

I use my fingers but I always wear nitrile gloves. Bigger areas I’ll use a plastic spreader for speed. To put glue in holes I use a bamboo skewer.

 

[ChuckS]

Not with bear fingers? You cheat!

 

[Michael Kellough]

Not with bear fingers? You cheat!

Bear fingers would be good for grooves.

 

[Packard]

I use the Harbor Freight acid brushes, 36 for $2.99 from my local store, or 72 for $15.00 from Amazon (listed as a Harbor Freight item).

So cheap, that I use them once and throw them away. I could run them under warm water and clean them and use them over and over again, but I don’t.

The only thing cheaper is using my finger tips, and I don’t do that.

https://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/c7f358f04aec81e7c5e0be4c56edf041/i/m/image_23837.jpg?auto=webp&width=1200&height=1200&canvas=1200,1200&fit=bounds