Issues with a flooring guy

I have been installing cabinets for 10 years and flooring guys are the worst. I always lift my gables ect of the floor the thickness of the flooring but the odd time flooring was changed without updating paperwork or a its just a little tight. I have had flooring guys actually beat pieces completely off a cabinet wrecking them instead of undercutting or just removing 4 screws and putting to the side. I have actually had flooring guys tell me they dont carry a undercut saw as its not there job to make sure it fits underneath my product so he will remove however is faster for him. Thankfully it doesnt happen often that i run into them haha.
 
Not all are like that but I hear what your saying. Hvac guys are pretty bad too. I haven't framed anything for a while but I used to and I'd always get call backs for missing blocking. I'd get there just to see that the heating guy has bashed em out. Not their problem I guess
 
As a cabinet guy myself Sparky I here what you are saying. I don't have much trouble with flooring guys but plumbers and electricians are butchers they don't care were they bore a hole or what it looks like as long as there wire or pipe goes through. I can't count how many times I have to send a guy to repair there damage very frustrating.
 
Sounds like a bad builder not scheduling out the trades in the right order.  I always do my trim after hardwoods are installed.  Not sanded or finished just installed.  This way my doors, cased openings and base are tight to the ground.  I have never heard of installing doors/trim before hardwoods,  doesnt really make sense to me. 
 
Flooring guy here. No self respecting mechanic installs a floor without properly undercutting the door jams. That's just laziness, pure and simple. The guy is a hack and should be kicked to the curb. But so often it's the lowest bid that gets the job, which is why I don't do much new construction anymore.
 
Rollin22Petes said:
As a cabinet guy myself Sparky I here what you are saying. I don't have much trouble with flooring guys but plumbers and electricians are butchers they don't care were they bore a hole or what it looks like as long as there wire or pipe goes through. I can't count how many times I have to send a guy to repair there damage very frustrating.
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As a UK electrician we have set guidelines on locations of holes and diameters/sizes to work to. Plumbers tend to be butchers as they are normally failed electricians ;)

I take pictures of everything at 1st and 2nd fix stage. It's saved my skin a few times and people can't argue. The last time a 'crew of dry wallers' mamaged to hit 5 cables because they were lazy! Customer had to pay me to fix and take it up with them regarding cost.
 
Hey Richy333  ;D, You do know that an electrician is just a normal person with his brains knocked outright?  [cool]
 
After reading all your stories it sounds like I'm in a more fortunate position than I realized. My two helpers and I build from foundation through to final completion (cottage and residential). This includes most everything but HVAC, plumbing, electrical and drywall. I won't install carpet or vinyl flooring myself, but most of the time people want some form of wood floor or tile. Tile is usually in small areas and I do it myself.

We have minimized the subtrades required and I'm usually general for the project unless the home owner wants to try to do that themselves. I've found good mechanical guys who respect the project and do good work themselves.

I didn't realize the degree of thoughtlessness that some of you have to work with on a regular basis, sorry to hear.
 
rst said:
Hey Richy333  ;D, You do know that an electrician is just a normal person with his brains knocked outright?  [cool]
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ha ha :) Very good. As apposed to a wood muncher, sorry chippy ;)

I'm not sure what they knocked out of me because I dont think there were any brains to start with!
 
Mike,

It can't take that much time to take some quick photos of your completed work?  If you document your work, it becomes quite difficult for another contractor to lay the blame at your feet, right?  Also, as a standard, I would recommend taking photos just as a means to be able to show other customers, builders, etc....your level of workmanship and pride you take in your job....
 
Put a big gob of PL Premium down in there as your are trimming the jam, that will fix his wagon if he tries to pry it up...... more likely to rip the framing apart.  He will have to cut that out, no way you are gonna just pry it up, there would be nothing left but splinters.
 
richy3333 said:
Rollin22Petes said:
As a cabinet guy myself Sparky I here what you are saying. I don't have much trouble with flooring guys but plumbers and electricians are butchers they don't care were they bore a hole or what it looks like as long as there wire or pipe goes through. I can't count how many times I have to send a guy to repair there damage very frustrating.
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As a UK electrician we have set guidelines on locations of holes and diameters/sizes to work to. Plumbers tend to be butchers as they are normally failed electricians ;)

I take pictures of everything at 1st and 2nd fix stage. It's saved my skin a few times and people can't argue. The last time a 'crew of dry wallers' mamaged to hit 5 cables because they were lazy! Customer had to pay me to fix and take it up with them regarding cost.
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They are not guidelines they are regulation. Ive seen a whole house of joists replaced because of sparkys.

Pity theres no guidelines for taking floor boards up. Im sure an axe is the goto tool.
 
Around here we always wait for all the floors sans carpet to be put in first before we hang cabinets doors and base. It makes everything tighter than undercutting. Maybe rearranging somethings with the builder would save you a lot of headache and get the flooring guy in and out faster.
 
That's not how things are done here. The tapers prime walls and texture ceilings then I come in and install doors, wanescotting, casing etc. the painters are next because all trim and doors are sprayed, never brushed. They also paint the walls at this time. Cabinet guys are next followed by electricians then flooring goes in and I come back to install base and hardware. The order rarely changes, even in renos. It's just the way things are done here.

 
Just finishing off a major kitchen Reno at home and this is what I did.

All wiring and plumbing, heated floor cables - electrical and plumbing inspection, good to insulate..
Insulate - building inspection, good to cover.
Drywall, tape and mud.
Floor tiles wall to wall
1st coat of wall paint, sprayed
Ceiling 3 coats of flat white sprayed
Trim windows and doors
Measure for cabinets and island.

Awaiting for cabinet install, then baseboard
Final 2 coat of paint, rolled and brushed.

Final inspection
 
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