Sugatsune HES3D 70

[tjbnwi]

Sugatsune HES3D hinge install.

An unusual situation, the stiles are 1.5” wide on the panel doors we had to use 26mm cup euro hinges. The 26mm will not work on the glass insert doors.

Used the Shaper Origin to cut the pockets. I had drawn the file for these hinges a couple of years ago, uploaded loaded the drawings to Shaper Hub.

The “cabinet” side had to be routed into the filler, there was no good place to insert the hinge into the euro stile case. I set the door gap off the face of the case by placing 4 door bumpers on the door, placed the door against the case, fastened the filler to the case. I’ll place the hinge covers after final adjustment.

Tom

 

[Packard]

Nice job. 

For future reference:

I looked into making doors with glass panels.  Hafele makes aluminum molding that assembles like aluminum picture frames with corner pieces that slide in and tighten.  The Hafele soft close hinges slide in that same profile and can be mounted at any position along the profile.

Basically, you need to cut miters for four corners and then a screw driver to finish the job.
https://www.hafele.com/us/en/produc...le-cut-to-size/56325002/?MasterSKU=P-00899348
https://www.homedecorhardware.com/hafele-hafele-decorative-catalog-hafele-aluminum-frame-doors.html

 

[tjbnwi]

Nice job. 

For future reference:

I looked into making doors with glass panels.  Hafele makes aluminum molding that assembles like aluminum picture frames with corner pieces that slide in and tighten.  The Hafele soft close hinges slide in that same profile and can be mounted at any position along the profile.

Basically, you need to cut miters for four corners and then a screw driver to finish the job.
https://www.hafele.com/us/en/produc...le-cut-to-size/56325002/?MasterSKU=P-00899348
https://www.homedecorhardware.com/hafele-hafele-decorative-catalog-hafele-aluminum-frame-doors.html

We have done the aluminum frames, the designer wanted these wood to match the rest of the area.

The issue on this one is stile width, on a 2.25” stile the 35mm fits, on the 1.5” stiles a 26mm would not fit.

These are black aluminum, 3/4” rails and stiles, I have 4 more sets in the shop now to be set this week. We use pivots instead of the clip on hinges.

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Tom

 

[Packard]

I’ve never come across a minimum stile width listing for cup hinges. 

Is 2.25” generally regarded as the minimum?

 

[woodferret]

I’ve never come across a minimum stile width listing for cup hinges. 

Is 2.25” generally regarded as the minimum?

Kinda why Blum has the mini-hinge.  Its in the technical drawings, but its mostly dictated by the cup size (35 or 26mm - mini) + 3-8mm edge offset + another 3mm or so for overhang from cup + "what looks intentional" buffer.

 

[Packard]

Thanks.  I have a Blum jig for the 35mm.  For the smaller one, if I go that route, I think I will just make a dedicated fence for the drill press. 

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I’ve never come across a minimum stile width listing for cup hinges. 

Is 2.25” generally regarded as the minimum?

That's what I always use, unless it is specifically dictated by someone else. It just seems right to my eye, not too big and bulky, but enough to accept the standard cup hinges.

 

[tjbnwi]

This build was dictated by an outside designer. The 1.5” R&S width is what she requested.

The 26mm were the only way to go. They come in very limited options, no Blumotion soft close on these.

The hole diameter on the 1.5” stile. Screw on only.
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They use a standard plate. The vast majority of our work is face frame, thus the FF plates.
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Blum add on soft close device.
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Due to the limited configurations these were fun. I had to relocate the hinges and turn hole plugs. With the 35mm cup hinges I would have used a wrap around hinge. I had considered a 39N but they don’t come in 26mm cup.
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The most common R&S width we use is 2.25”, once in awhile we’ll do a 3” R&S.

Tom