The Complete "Jointmaker Pro" Review..... A Paradigm Shift in Woodworking

[TheTassieBFG]

Hi Roger I appreciate your in depth review and look forward to future instalments even if getting one of these isn't possible for me at least i can dream and drool.
Andrew

 

[Ron Dunn]

Appreciated, but too slow.

The valuable momentum which built up around the initial thread has evaporated.

 

[monte]

Appreciated, but too slow.
The valuable momentum which built up around the initial thread has evaporated.

Ron.....

Excuse me. Too slow? Your welcome to come over and work my job for me, then I could work on it full time and get it done lickysplit. Being 110% comprehensive with an indepth review, outlining on why I consider this to be a paradigm shift in woodworking takes a little time......... And nothing's evaporating, those who consider this a worthwhile tool will stick around.

Roger

 

[jaegerhund]

Appreciated, but too slow.
The valuable momentum which built up around the initial thread has evaporated.

Ron.....

Excuse me. Too slow? Your welcome to come over and work my job for me, then I could work on it full time and get it done lickysplit. Being 110% comprehensive with an indepth review, outlining on why I consider this to be a paradigm shift in woodworking takes a little time......... And nothings evaporating, those who consider this a worthwhile tool will stick around.

Roger

Yes we (I) will ----- and thank you for your time.  Interesting machine. Beautiful to look at as well.

Justin

 

[John Stevens]

And nothing's evaporating, those who consider this a worthwhile tool will stick around.

Well put.  Impulse buyers may be disappointed with the speed, but complaining about it would be just the way to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs:  Roger's time on this thread is time he could be completing a project for a paying customer.

Regards,

John

 

[Warrior]

Roger,

The very large font and pictures makes this article very hard, almost frustrating to try and read. I only have a 19" monitor and the text is cut off on the right side.

I appreciate the hard work you are doing but actually cannot fully appreciate it until I can read it.

Eiji Fuller

 

[Ron Dunn]

I wish I could think of a nicer way to say this ... but ... if you didn't have the time, perhaps you shouldn't have taken the job.

Alternatively, a progressive discussion rather than a "magazine feature" might have been a better way to deal with the subject.

I do like the writing and the pictures, and appreciate the effort to which you are going, but perhaps you're over-doing it.

 

[monte]

I wish I could think of a nicer way to say this ... but ... if you didn't have the time, perhaps you shouldn't have taken the job.
Alternatively, a progressive discussion rather than a "magazine feature" might have been a better way to deal with the subject.
I do like the writing and the pictures, and appreciate the effort to which you are going, but perhaps you're over-doing it.

Ron,

a. I didn't say I didn't have the time, I'm taking the time I have, to do it in the manner I am.

b. I'm doing it, in this format because this is the way I "choose" to do it, and in the end...... will do the subject justice.
    I "Choose" to get all the information out first in the "magazine style" in order to give the discussion more substance and visual clarity.

c. If you think I'm going into too much detail, you could "choose" not to read it, and I say that politely.

d. Now having said the above, I "choose" not to respond this any more and just focus on the writing at hand.

thank you,
Roger

......and in postscript, this is a forum and everybody is not going to be happy all the time. All I could do is follow my gut.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Roger,

The very large font and pictures makes this article very hard, almost frustrating to try and read. I only have a 19" monitor and the text is cut off on the right side.

I appreciate the hard work you are doing but actually cannot fully appreciate it until I can read it.

Eiji Fuller

My screen is only 17" (1280 pixels) and I don't have a problem. I think all up to date browsers allow you to change the size of the text and it flows (wraps around) to fill the size of the window so it's only the width of the photos that require a wide screen and I wouldn't want smaller pictures.

 

[Michael Kellough]

I want to see the most comprehensive review possible in this format.
I like what we've got so far.

Sure I'd like to have it all up now but we have to be patient.
I'm sure Roger wishes it was done too but I hope he continues
to develop the remaining chapters to the same level of depth.

 

[monte]

Michael,

thank you for responding, It's my turn to cook dinner tonight.
I wanted to respond to Eiji's post and I was thinking about the reply.
My Mac laptop is only 15", so I was a little confused.
I think you answered the question about why.

all the best,
Roger

p.s. thanx for the other thought, and I will ..........most definitely.

 

[Scott W.]

Roger,

Your doing an outstanding job!
This should be saved in pdf format for download / archive.

Thanks for all your work and your time on this.

Scott W.

 

[nclemmons]

Roger -

Great job - I'm even more convinced the one I have on order is going to be a great addition.  I'd like the review sooner, but also realize the product is not even shipping yet.  From your writeup, I wonder if you got an updated shipment date from John? 

Appreciate your going to great detail in this review.  it's a new way of thinking about joint making, and not something that I believe is fully grasped and understood without the details.  I have watched the videos and read the write-up on Popular Woodworking blog, and played with the product in person before placing an order with John.  And I'm still learning from the time you are taking to document what you learned and reflect on what it means.

There is a lot to grasp.  It's a lot of money.  For many, they'll compare it to a backsaw.  You're doing great explaining why it is a lot more than that.

Thanks -

neil

 

[tallgrass]

good job keep it up ;D

 

[Eli]

Roger
Excellent work so far. Two thumbs up. Thank you for having the sense of responsibility to do this right. It's worth waiting for, and I am happy waiting, it'll give me something decent to read finally. Please don't waste valuable time trying to explain yourself to everyone, just stick to your goal of completing this obviously comprehensive review. In other words, finish it, then read the comments here.  ;D

 

[Matthew Schenker]

Roger,
I encourage you to go at your own pace.  What you are putting together will be a terrific resource for a long time, so it's worth spending time creating it.
Let me know if you need any help.
Matthew

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Great review so far Roger!  Please take your time.

I used to have a coffee cup that said "God grant me patience - and I want it right now!!" 

We can wait.

 

[Tim Sproul]

Will you add comments on what you think are some of the reasonable limitations to the Jointmaker Pro?  Size of stock is one obvious aspect to consider.  Smallness doesn't seem to be too much of a problem but how about larger stuff?  Could you throw a 4x4x30 inch stick on their and cut a tenon off one end?

To me, a good review should go into the good things as well as the limits of a tool/jig.

 

[monte]

UPDATE

The Complete "Jointmaker Pro" Review is now up. ...........go to page one of this thread.

Also,  this just in.......

This review would NOT be complete without a list of the changes I just received from John Economaki at Bridge City Tools outlining the changes from the Jointmaker Pro prototype to the production model coming out within 90 days. (Included within the section on  "Value Thoughts on Engineering, Materials & Craftsmanship".)


regards,
Roger Savatteri

 

[Ben West]

Roger,

You're doing a great job, and I for one look forward to a comprehensive review, not a shallow analysis.  We can get that from their website already.

The only man who makes no mistakes is the man who never does anything.

                                                                        Teddy Roosevelt