Workshop sooner?!

Wow....thats serious!  You must have good neighbors to leave that outside.
 
mattfc said:
looking good, I take it that is a vacuum pump in front, a bloody big one (don't get carried away with any "member" enlargement ideas, it will have the lot off!), guess you will have to buy a pretty high CFM dust extractor to?

Yeah it's big and loud that vacuum pump.

Yeah gotta get a dust extractor but I'm kinda all dried out with buying these new toys haaahaa lol

 
Jalvis said:
Wow....thats serious!  You must have good neighbors to leave that outside.

LoL. I think they will struggle to run off with a 2.5ton machine.

But yeah neighbours are good
 
galwaydude18 said:
Jmb I'm frothing at the mouth to have a cnc now I see you brand new one!  [big grin] Its looking really good in its temporary home  [tongue]

I wish it was brand new. I wanted to get a brand new one but every one kept telling me I'm daft  best buying second hand so that's what I did!  Even mattfc was telling me not to buy new.

 
Ah even still I'm still frothing at the mouth to have one  [big grin]

Ya good second machinery is the way to go especially if it has been minded before you get it!
 
jmbfestool said:
Jalvis said:
Wow....thats serious!  You must have good neighbors to leave that outside.

LoL. I think they will struggle to run off with a 2.5ton machine.

But yeah neighbours are good

Its the pikeys you need to watch, they will half inch anything, no matter how heavy! [unsure]
 
i just bougth a startrite dc . single phase,3hp moter, 5000m3 /hour (2940 cfm) it says.
660euro. its the most powerfull single phase one i could find.
bloody thing would suck your arm off
i ranit with 3M of hose,40M of pipe,15 45degree fittings .
all un sealed (still 1st fixing it) and it still sucked up the dust as i pored it past the end.
 
Alan m said:
i just bougth a startrite dc . single phase,3hp moter, 5000m3 /hour (2940 cfm) it says.
660euro. its the most powerfull single phase one i could find.
bloody thing would suck your arm off
i ranit with 3M of hose,40M of pipe,15 45degree fittings .
all un sealed (still 1st fixing it) and it still sucked up the dust as i pored it past the end.

Its the next thing ive gotta buy I think.  Gotta have something which can suck enough for when the CNC is running all the time (in a enclosed room im going to build for it inside the workshop to keep noise down)  and also lets say a separate thicknesser and surface planer for when I have some one helping me on jobs! I want to be able to run at least 3 machines at one time  4 machines would be better.

JMB
 
i presume that cnc os 3 phase. . have you a mains conection or a generater.
whats the cfm rating required to keep that cnc clear of dust.
what kind of thicknesser (12,16,20,24 inch ) width / planer width
thats a lot of chips to extract at once on a wide board

you will need a large capacity drum etc for all that chips. my seperater (thien baffel ) is on top of a 50 gallon (uk gallon i think) oild drum with a removable lid.
i havnt used it enough yet (only seting it up )  but i woulnt think that it would last very long before it would need to be emptied. i have the barrel on a roller board so i can pop it out and roll it away quickly and pop in another barrel (i have 6 ,1 being used and 5 in storage)
one day i was thicknessing some laminations . they were 75mm wide and 10 feet long and maybe 40 of them. i bandsawn them down to about 8mm and plained them to 4 maybe.
i filled my dx4000 (maybe 25-30 gallon capacity) extractor 3 times.
i think you will want a skip or dedicated trailer to seperate into.
 
Alan m said:
i presume that cnc os 3 phase. . have you a mains conection or a generater.
whats the cfm rating required to keep that cnc clear of dust.
what kind of thicknesser (12,16,20,24 inch ) width / planer width
thats a lot of chips to extract at once on a wide board

you will need a large capacity drum etc for all that chips. my seperater (thien baffel ) is on top of a 50 gallon (uk gallon i think) oild drum with a removable lid.
i havnt used it enough yet (only seting it up )  but i woulnt think that it would last very long before it would need to be emptied. i have the barrel on a roller board so i can pop it out and roll it away quickly and pop in another barrel (i have 6 ,1 being used and 5 in storage)
one day i was thicknessing some laminations . they were 75mm wide and 10 feet long and maybe 40 of them. i bandsawn them down to about 8mm and plained them to 4 maybe.
i filled my dx4000 (maybe 25-30 gallon capacity) extractor 3 times.
i think you will want a skip or dedicated trailer to seperate into.

I dont know ill have to find out wa the cnc requires.

I am thinking maybe having two separate  extractors now  one dedicated for cnc only.  So i can have clean shavings if I wanted to. 

Also looking around I found da  der seems to be  no machines best for both  large shavings and fine dust  its either one or the other  unless I pay big money. 

So i can get a fine and a less fine dust extractor.

it will most likely be a Hammer thicknesser AND surface Planner

 
when i read it my first idea was the way i would do it. thats 2 seperate extracters adn  seperater but thougth you only wanted one. keeping the solid wood chips seperate from the manmade stuff will make it easier to dispose of .

are you talking about Low volume high pressure  / high volume  low presure  or is there a sub section of lvhp that has different impeller types for diferent sized chips.
i dont think you would want a hplv (like a vac) colecting off a cnc or a planer. i would think a lot of air moving over the area would help on a cnc.

 
Alan m said:
when i read it my first idea was the way i would do it. thats 2 seperate extracters adn  seperater but thougth you only wanted one. keeping the solid wood chips seperate from the manmade stuff will make it easier to dispose of .

are you talking about Low volume high pressure  / high volume  low presure  or is there a sub section of lvhp that has different impeller types for diferent sized chips.
i dont think you would want a hplv (like a vac) colecting off a cnc or a planer. i would think a lot of air moving over the area would help on a cnc.

I want a high volume I would say for my machinery.
 
mattfc said:
keep an eye out on ebay.. I saw this go for instance that would fit the bill
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Felder-Dust-Extractor-RL200-/271093397296?nma=true&si=YPTLJ3J0RVys74GyrGpe37jSpNM%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

also check out industrial auctions at bidspotter.co.uk

Oh no you going to tell me best buying second hand extractor as well lol

I like new stuff so I take care of it from day one.  But budget is getting very tight so second hand is the way to go really
 
jmbfestool said:
Oh no you going to tell me best buying second hand extractor as well lol

I like new stuff so I take care of it from day one.  But budget is getting very tight so second hand is the way to go really

would agree about getting stuff new for lots of things, especially more delicate items were abuse would effect alignment etc (routers, domino, blades and router bits, TS etc) , but this is just for sucking up crap, very hard to misuse, other than I don't know, sucking up a bag of plaster or cement, which would just mess up the filters
 
mattfc said:
jmbfestool said:
Oh no you going to tell me best buying second hand extractor as well lol

I like new stuff so I take care of it from day one.  But budget is getting very tight so second hand is the way to go really

would agree about getting stuff new for lots of things, especially more delicate items were abuse would effect alignment etc (routers, domino, blades and router bits, TS etc) , but this is just for sucking up crap, very hard to misuse, other than I don't know, sucking up a bag of plaster or cement, which would just mess up the filters

AaaH very true!!!  I shouldn't of bought a Cnc second hand then lol

Ill look around I don't need a vacuum yet untill the build is up any way so got plenty of time. Plus got no were to store it.

 
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