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[woodguy7]

Sorry, it was Joiner that said it not Dean.  Credit to Chris.

 

[jmbfestool]

Im with Dean, its usually tilled then the bath set in.  That being said, i do like the look of your bath with the near flush ledge.  But then again, wait till you have a couple of kids in there splashing water everywhere, because they will  [big grin]  [poke]  Hope you have plenty of silicone arount that tv  [big grin]

Dean? I can't see any post from Dean above? Or is joiner called Dean sorry I don't know.

Well I prefer the flusher look I always do it like that I did my mums bath hers is flush but no one mentioned it then! LoL
The only reason it's near flush easier to do a silicon bead.

The box is ply and I tanked it all the shower is all tanked and all around the bath is tanked for extra precaution.

The TV is siliconed in proper! Then it's going to have a bead a silicone around the edge between the tiles and TV I think you will struggle to actually get the TV off the wall in the future but like I said my TV is completely sealed  from factory so even if water did leak in it would not cause any damage.

 

[woodguy7]

Oh but you dont know the damage kids can do  [big grin]  & i did correct my mistake if you care to read above  [tongue]

 

[jmbfestool]

Oh but you dont know the damage kids can do  [big grin]  & i did correct my mistake if you care to read above  [tongue]

LoL I did but when I posted it said warning some one posted but i always still post then check after. I just left it lol was being lazy! Its bit annoying typing on the IPad I keep miss typing!

Any way your a wee so an so! [tongue]

Jmb

 

[joiner1970]

The shower tray was also fitted before i tiled the floor so I tiled up to the shower tray to make it look more slim lined.

I have never seen any one tile then fit a bath thinking about it. You always fit baths then tile it well i have ripped out a few baths i had to cut them through the middle to get them out so not to cause damage to the tiles which were trapping the bath in.

Jmb

Hi jmb,

No the way it should be done is that you tile the top of the ply box then you can lower the bath down into the hole and the rim of the bath should sit slightly off the tiles supported by its legs not the tiles. This leaves you with a neat joint under the bath rim which is sealed with silicone. Then once the bath is connected and tested the front of the ply can be tiled, usually an access panel is left ie one tile is stuck with silicone so it can be removed.

Ive done a few built in baths in the 20+ years ive been a joiner I hope I know what im doing lol.

Chris

 

[joiner1970]

while we are talking bathrooms anyone here seen dolphin bathrooms at work ?? I fitted a kitchen for someone this week and she had dolphin in at the same time to do a very small wet room. £16000 they charged and one bloke turned up in a tatty old transit to fit it. He was swearing all the time and his work was disgusting. The tiles are all over the place. Bunch of cowboys grrrrr

 

[Guy Ashley]

I think they are the same parent company who do Moben kitchens and always sub the work out.

I hear they pay very poor rates and consequently only get fitters that cant get work anywhere else.

I suppose if that is right then the tilers are of a similar breed.

 

[LostInTheWood]

No the other rooms are finished what you trying to say?   Joking! Lol

No the entire housenhas been gutted! I removed EVERY wall upstairs they where all blocks Walls! So very heavy on the floors as they where just built onto the floor. Also I can not hide pipes and cables easily in single block walls.  So I rearanged some of the layout made the bathroom bigger as it use to be a bathroom with seperate toilet so now it's all one. Its all stud Walls upstairs. I have made the little bedroom bigger by reducing the cuboard space as that was far to big cus it had the water tank in der as well but I have fitted a new combo boiler in the loft saving space.

It has had loads of work done I had to redo the valleys on the roof new facia barge board sofet guttering. I took down the flat roof on the extension and put a pitched roof on it.  Took down few Walls on the ground floor and supported the floor above and put some studding up to create a larger hall and so I could have a down stairs toilet i hate not having a down stairs toilet so I had to fit one some where.   I removed all the old windows and doors I made a window into French doors and blocked up a door made it into a large window. I removed ALL concrete BOOT lintels and replaced them with catnic lintels.

Dab boarded and plaster boarded every room so all rooms have been redone new wireing plumbing.  All rooms have been plastered!

Loads to do still did some digging in the garden with a mini digger had some fun for a week! Lol still alot to do Outside.

Jmb

Damn!  Sounds like you should have started out renting an excavator and a couple of skips...... then you could start from scratch and build all new!  [wink]

just kidding.    the work is all in good fun isn't it?    [big grin]

The tub story is funny, but I'd have to agree with others that you should install tile first then fit the tub (for that particular style of tub).  Shower tray is spot on.  I forgot to mention that I'm loving the loo.  I like that style, but the shape of the rim looks like it's made for square butts.  Then again, you have yet to put the seat on it....

I think they are the same parent company who do Moben kitchens and always sub the work out.

I hear they pay very poor rates and consequently only get fitters that cant get work anywhere else.

I suppose if that is right then the tilers are of a similar breed.

Same goes for some of the "big box" operations here in the states.   

 

[Deansocial]

Im with Dean, its usually tilled then the bath set in.  That being said, i do like the look of your bath with the near flush ledge.  But then again, wait till you have a couple of kids in there splashing water everywhere, because they will  [big grin]  [poke]  Hope you have plenty of silicone arount that tv  [big grin]

Oi stop reading my mind!!!  could be thinking about something flithy [blink]

 

[Deansocial]

i normlly fit the bath test it all then box it in leaving the correct gap for a tile to slide under the rim of the bath. I try not to use ply either as i had a delaming issue on a job(nothing major) so always use a tile backing board now for piece of mind and i believe it is a much better job

 

[jmbfestool]

The shower tray was also fitted before i tiled the floor so I tiled up to the shower tray to make it look more slim lined.

Jmb

Hi jmb,

No the way it should be done is that you tile the top of the ply box then you can lower the bath down into the hole and the rim of the bath should sit slightly off the tiles supported by its legs not the tiles. This leaves you with a neat joint under the bath rim which is sealed with silicone. Then once the bath is connected and tested the front of the ply can be tiled, usually an access panel is left ie one tile is stuck with silicone so it can be removed.

Ive done a few built in baths in the 20+ years ive been a joiner I hope I know what im doing lol.

Chris

JMB,

JMB,

JMB,

Well you see a few reasons!

1. The bath only cost me 40quid from BnQ because it was damaged! Well gues where the damage was! On the side I have against the wall!

2. I don't like the curve I actually hate it so having it It in the corner kinda hides it but 40quid is nothing as the bath was worth £300 or more. It's a very deep bath. I have sunk the bath into the floor otherwise you would have to try and hurdle over the bath.

Well I always seen tiles go onto the bath better water seal so are you saying  should I of tiled the front top of the bath first then put the bath on to of the tiles i then tile the back wall so the tiles go on top of the bath

I wasn't sayin u didn't know.  Just I was not sure if you was on about all the tiles or just on the boxing.  So I agree with u on the boxing just not on the Walls as I have always seen bath in first then the Tile the Walls on to the bath.  I prefer flush look though so I did it the wrong way [tongue].  I did say in my previous post wat do you mean tile the lot then do the bath or just the boxing.  

Oh I didn't use the legs on my bath legs are crap hey lift the bath to high. The boxing at the front supports the bath and a frame right around the bath supports the bath and I made my own supports under the bath and sunk the bath in to the floor joist  the bath is actually about 5inch lower than the tiled floor height.  If I had used legs e bath would of been 10 inch higher if it was sat on the floor.

Jmb

 

[jmbfestool]

i normlly fit the bath test it all then box it in leaving the correct gap for a tile to slide under the rim of the bath. I try not to use ply either as i had a delaming issue on a job(nothing major) so always use a tile backing board now for piece of mind and i believe it is a much better job

Yes I have done that before left the boxing low to slide the tiles under suppose the same as tile before then putting the bath in. I would not like to just tile the top leave the rest then put the bath in then tile the rest of the bath room like every one says (joiner1970) because you would have to work out where your tiles on the Walls are going or floor maybe to make sure your are inline with the wall when they get tiled. Suppose it depends how big your boxing is an how much if that was a problem or not.

I never said my way was the right way! Just a nicer way [tongue] in my opinion.

 

[jmbfestool]

Get things straight!  

lol

I did the bathroom as cheap as I could with out trying to compromise on looks!

So I got a cheap bath I hate the rounded corner but it saved me a lot of money as I wanted a large deep bath which normally are not cheap.
I dont love the shower enclosure to much metal! I prefer just glass! I wanted a walk in shower just not got the room really.
I dont like the edge of bath showing so I sunk it into my boxing so I could tile up the the edge (apparently the wrong way [tongue]) give a sleeker look
The tiles well they are okay I wanted these other tiles but they where like £28 per metre. These only cost me £14/15 per square metre
I am not happy with the grout lol but it does look okay!

Basically I hate being on a budget! If I had the money to spend I would of done and got a few things different! Bath is one of them!  

I like the Toilet! Oh and I like the sink! that was only £40quid!

I do like the bathroom dont get me wrong just I couldnt get what I wanted!  I also wanted LEDS in the insets on the walls but just time and money to put them in.

overall turned out okay!  My girlfriend LOVES it thinks it amazing! So thats all good lol!

JMB

 

[joiner1970]

i normlly fit the bath test it all then box it in leaving the correct gap for a tile to slide under the rim of the bath. I try not to use ply either as i had a delaming issue on a job(nothing major) so always use a tile backing board now for piece of mind and i believe it is a much better job

Yeahj thats another way I have done them as well I dont get involved too much I just do the boxing for the plumber. I can plumb and I can tile very well if I do say so myself but when Im on a new build we have plumbers and tilers so I dont need to do any of that. Regarding the plywood we have never had a problem with delaminating but a lot of the time we do use wedi board or cement board as it is a better job.

 

[joiner1970]

I think they are the same parent company who do Moben kitchens and always sub the work out.

I hear they pay very poor rates and consequently only get fitters that cant get work anywhere else.

I suppose if that is right then the tilers are of a similar breed.

Yeah and Sharpes bedrooms another bunch of rip off merchants.

I felt sick when she said what she was paying for it. Sadly she would have used us but she didnt know us when she booked Dolphin. They tried to get her to book the kitchen in with them as well but luckily for me she didnt. I finished her kitchen Friday, built her a new master bedroom made up from two beds knocked into one with an entertainment wall, plasma tv etc, walk in wardrobe to do and they want us to fit out their new offices at the company they own. So not a bad little job  [big grin]

 

[jmbfestool]

i normlly fit the bath test it all then box it in leaving the correct gap for a tile to slide under the rim of the bath. I try not to use ply either as i had a delaming issue on a job(nothing major) so always use a tile backing board now for piece of mind and i believe it is a much better job

Yeahj thats another way I have done them as well I dont get involved too much I just do the boxing for the plumber. I can plumb and I can tile very well if I do say so myself but when Im on a new build we have plumbers and tilers so I dont need to do any of that. Regarding the plywood we have never had a problem with delaminating but a lot of the time we do use wedi board or cement board as it is a better job.

I prefer Cement board over ply!  I think ply around a bath is fine though never had a problem! The company I use to work for ALWAYS used ply even in the shower enclosure! Well I never agreed with that! I always said we need cement board but it was just dismissed.  It was crap using ply in a shower enclosure always had to pack the plasterboard to get it flush with the ply because they only wanted to use ply in the shower area and plasterboard the rest then plaster it!  I always thought because one was plasterboard and other was ply it might crack the tiles or grout as they would move differently two difference surfaces but it didnt.  On my own jobs I only use cement board and often tank the shower area.

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[jmbfestool]

I think they are the same parent company who do Moben kitchens and always sub the work out.

I hear they pay very poor rates and consequently only get fitters that cant get work anywhere else.

I suppose if that is right then the tilers are of a similar breed.

Yeah and Sharpes bedrooms another bunch of rip off merchants.

I felt sick when she said what she was paying for it. Sadly she would have used us but she didnt know us when she booked Dolphin. They tried to get her to book the kitchen in with them as well but luckily for me she didnt. I finished her kitchen Friday, built her a new master bedroom made up from two beds knocked into one with an entertainment wall, plasma tv etc, walk in wardrobe to do and they want us to fit out their new offices at the company they own. So not a bad little job  [big grin]

I was working for a company at the time so did not really have time to do my mums bathroom but I did end up doing it any way! This was because we had dolphin to come and price to do the bathroom they wanted £25000  [scared] My dad was like £20 000 you have a deal!  My mum went mad and said you thing im stupid are takin the P I dont wanna pay more than £15000 the Dolphin sales men was like no chance can we do it for that price!

My mum said well your ridiculous no way can you justify that price he was sayin its all high quality stuff and everything the sales man eventually said he would do it for £18 000! Well my Dad jumped in and said  DEAL my mum was not happy as she thought she could get them down to £15000 so my Dad was in the bad books!  

Any way they said 2 weeks and they could start when they have all the stuff in 2 days later they said the tiles you have chosen we can not get hold of them we have these others very similar!  My mum said no if you cant get the tiles I chose then I want my deposit back they said they would knock £1000 of the price but my mum said no if im paying that much I want what I want they eventually sent her refund.  

Crazy prices Dolphin are CRAP

JMB

 

[joiner1970]

You wouldnt mind paying the money if it was high quality but its not , i watched this guy using ordinary plasterboard to clad all the boxing for the cistern etc before he tiled, a complete cowboy. The woman was told by dolphin it would take 19 man days to do it which is ridiculous , the fitter did it in a week.

 

[jmbfestool]

New! New!  New!   And Gues what its GERMAN made!

I think I might aswell live in Germany!  All the stuff I buy is always German lol!  Apart from some ladders I just ordered from Rex Crystals!  I wanted the Zargers cus all my steps are Zargers and they are MINT BUT these tripple ladders by zargers weighed 36KG and the UK brand Lyte are 28Kg and £80 cheaper so.
I caved in and went with the UK brand I gotta support UK  [tongue] no really it was the weight the Zargers where just to heavy really plus the Lyte are shorter but also extend longer so just seem all round better larder for the money.

I was also told the zarger parts where made by lyte for the UK and for how much I would actually use triple ladders they dont have to be as heavy duty.

Any way BACK to the NEW NEW! I have a NEW Tow Bar lol!

I know its nothing exciting but dont it look sexy?!

edited: I forgot to mention the hole! Its where my reversing Camera goes but  He had to remove my rear bumper completely so the camera had to come of aswell because as you can see the main bar runs inside the bumper so he also had to cut the bumper he did it all at my place so that was handy!  I just aint got round to putting the camera back on yet because the bar is in the way now to tighten the nut behind the camera so I gotta think of another way to fix it back I told him I would do it as he was going to fix it onto the bumper then fit the bumper but then I wouldnt be able to get my camera back off with out removing the entire bumper again because I broke to camera so it doesnt always work properly so I need to replace it really so I would like to take remove it easilly when I replace it.

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[jmbfestool]

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